Denver CO Exhaust Crackdown
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#23
RE: Denver CO Exhaust Crackdown
ORIGINAL: lsc86
"We the people of the united steralized neutered government controlled states"......
What a joke. Illegal immigrants causing havoc with our medical and school systems, out of control war in the middle east, poverty, natural disaster devastation recovery issues, over crowded prisons full of violent offenders, meth dealers in our high schools and we want to start targeting 'loud pipes' on motorcycles.....oh yeah, I forgot, writing tickets to the working class American is the only way to ensure revenue to our government agencies, fighting crime and solving issues doesn't make them any money....twisted world we live in.
"We the people of the united steralized neutered government controlled states"......
What a joke. Illegal immigrants causing havoc with our medical and school systems, out of control war in the middle east, poverty, natural disaster devastation recovery issues, over crowded prisons full of violent offenders, meth dealers in our high schools and we want to start targeting 'loud pipes' on motorcycles.....oh yeah, I forgot, writing tickets to the working class American is the only way to ensure revenue to our government agencies, fighting crime and solving issues doesn't make them any money....twisted world we live in.
#24
RE: Denver CO Exhaust Crackdown
ORIGINAL: BadBobOk
Here's the reply that I got to an email that I sent them prior to our Colorado Ride.
The law requires all motorcycles to have and approved EPA approved muffler stamp. The stamp is located under the muffler and has clear engraved writing. Officers of the Denver Police Department are inspecting loud pipes with aggressive riders. So if you like to bring attention to your self by accelerating rapidly, with aggressive throttle advancement creating a loud noise in our neighborhoods were families and children are present, than you can expect a violation. If you ride with the respect of others and you ride in a quiet and safe manor than you should be fine.
Officer Jim Pelloni 01074
Denver Police Department
Neighborhood Enforcement Team
Motorcycle Unit
720-865-6944[/align]
Here's the reply that I got to an email that I sent them prior to our Colorado Ride.
The law requires all motorcycles to have and approved EPA approved muffler stamp. The stamp is located under the muffler and has clear engraved writing. Officers of the Denver Police Department are inspecting loud pipes with aggressive riders. So if you like to bring attention to your self by accelerating rapidly, with aggressive throttle advancement creating a loud noise in our neighborhoods were families and children are present, than you can expect a violation. If you ride with the respect of others and you ride in a quiet and safe manor than you should be fine.
Officer Jim Pelloni 01074
Denver Police Department
Neighborhood Enforcement Team
Motorcycle Unit
720-865-6944[/align]
Here, the community is moving the entertainment venues out to the outskirts of town (Ormond Beach & Destination Daytona) & planting "Ride Quiet" signs. The signs are up year 'round, & I suspect it won't be long 'till enforcement gets severe.
I suspect that if you ride with a little sense, exhaust sound won't be much problem. But, you get what you earn..................
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RE: Denver CO Exhaust Crackdown
ORIGINAL: BadBobOk
Here's the reply that I got to an email that I sent them prior to our Colorado Ride.
The law requires all motorcycles to have and approved EPA approved muffler stamp. The stamp is located under the muffler and has clear engraved writing. Officers of the Denver Police Department are inspecting loud pipes with aggressive riders. So if you like to bring attention to your self by accelerating rapidly, with aggressive throttle advancement creating a loud noise in our neighborhoods were families and children are present, than you can expect a violation. If you ride with the respect of others and you ride in a quiet and safe manor than you should be fine.
Officer Jim Pelloni 01074
Denver Police Department
Neighborhood Enforcement Team
Motorcycle Unit
720-865-6944[/align]
Here's the reply that I got to an email that I sent them prior to our Colorado Ride.
The law requires all motorcycles to have and approved EPA approved muffler stamp. The stamp is located under the muffler and has clear engraved writing. Officers of the Denver Police Department are inspecting loud pipes with aggressive riders. So if you like to bring attention to your self by accelerating rapidly, with aggressive throttle advancement creating a loud noise in our neighborhoods were families and children are present, than you can expect a violation. If you ride with the respect of others and you ride in a quiet and safe manor than you should be fine.
Officer Jim Pelloni 01074
Denver Police Department
Neighborhood Enforcement Team
Motorcycle Unit
720-865-6944[/align]
I believe that once the law is officially on the books, the people that pushed for it will have their little victory to feel good about, but I also believe that it will be selectively enforced.
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RE: Denver CO Exhaust Crackdown
"Here, the community is moving the entertainment venues out to the outskirts of town (Ormond Beach & Destination Daytona) & planting "Ride Quiet" signs. The signs are up year 'round, & I suspect it won't be long 'till enforcement gets severe."
Whena similar ordinance hitDaytona a few years ago everyone get excited aboutit and thoughtthat it would be the end of bikeweek and biketoberfest. In reality the idiots who are getting the tickets are the ones who constantly rev their bikes and attract as much attention as they can. I've never seen a cop pull over a rider with loud pipes who wasn't drawing attention to themselves intentionally.
As for Bruce Rossmeyer drawing a lot of action up to Destination Daytona, that was a different beef he had with the city of Daytona. They were cracking down on how many vendors and what not he could have at his store during bikeweek. So he makes such a big event at Destination, which I have to admit it is a pretty nice setup.
Whena similar ordinance hitDaytona a few years ago everyone get excited aboutit and thoughtthat it would be the end of bikeweek and biketoberfest. In reality the idiots who are getting the tickets are the ones who constantly rev their bikes and attract as much attention as they can. I've never seen a cop pull over a rider with loud pipes who wasn't drawing attention to themselves intentionally.
As for Bruce Rossmeyer drawing a lot of action up to Destination Daytona, that was a different beef he had with the city of Daytona. They were cracking down on how many vendors and what not he could have at his store during bikeweek. So he makes such a big event at Destination, which I have to admit it is a pretty nice setup.
#28
RE: Denver CO Exhaust Crackdown
ORIGINAL: PapaTravis
*sigh* You're right. Me putting on drag pipes a year ago is the reason Denver (and others) came out with this law.
*sigh* You're right. Me putting on drag pipes a year ago is the reason Denver (and others) came out with this law.
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RE: Denver CO Exhaust Crackdown
ORIGINAL: sleepman54
"Here, the community is moving the entertainment venues out to the outskirts of town (Ormond Beach & Destination Daytona) & planting "Ride Quiet" signs. The signs are up year 'round, & I suspect it won't be long 'till enforcement gets severe."
Whena similar ordinance hitDaytona a few years ago everyone get excited aboutit and thoughtthat it would be the end of bikeweek and biketoberfest. In reality the idiots who are getting the tickets are the ones who constantly rev their bikes and attract as much attention as they can. I've never seen a cop pull over a rider with loud pipes who wasn't drawing attention to themselves intentionally.
As for Bruce Rossmeyer drawing a lot of action up to Destination Daytona, that was a different beef he had with the city of Daytona. They were cracking down on how many vendors and what not he could have at his store during bikeweek. So he makes such a big event at Destination, which I have to admit it is a pretty nice setup.
"Here, the community is moving the entertainment venues out to the outskirts of town (Ormond Beach & Destination Daytona) & planting "Ride Quiet" signs. The signs are up year 'round, & I suspect it won't be long 'till enforcement gets severe."
Whena similar ordinance hitDaytona a few years ago everyone get excited aboutit and thoughtthat it would be the end of bikeweek and biketoberfest. In reality the idiots who are getting the tickets are the ones who constantly rev their bikes and attract as much attention as they can. I've never seen a cop pull over a rider with loud pipes who wasn't drawing attention to themselves intentionally.
As for Bruce Rossmeyer drawing a lot of action up to Destination Daytona, that was a different beef he had with the city of Daytona. They were cracking down on how many vendors and what not he could have at his store during bikeweek. So he makes such a big event at Destination, which I have to admit it is a pretty nice setup.
I expect they'll still show restraint about ticketing pipes unless as you say "they're drawing attention to themselves". But, if the laws stand in other cities, I figure we won't be far behind. Gives 'em another tool...
#30
RE: Denver CO Exhaust Crackdown
hdman1216- no reason to call names. If you have something insightful to share, please do. I've been through way too many legal battles in regards to snowmobile, atv, and watercraft user rights in the past 20 years my friend. I know how these things play out and 9.5 times out of 10, powersports users lose the battle. The 'police yourself & that will appease them mantra' doesn't work. Those against powersports in general will never compromise, they want it their way and their way only.
The Denver officer's response is, IMO, fair. However, will all officers in Denver take that view? Without documented federally approved db testing methods, you'll never have a fair system in place. There will always be some irritated officer that hands out tickets and even if your pipes are stamped, quiet, etc., you'll have to either bite the bullet and just pay it or take a day off work, hire a lawyer, and try to fight it. Either way, you lose.
Slowly but surely, especially in regards to activities that the safety ***** in governmnet don't condone, our rights get stripped away. Whether it is free and equal access to ~public~ land for OHV, hunting, , camping, etc. or cracking down on water access for boats or pushing helmet laws and 'tough' noise restrictions on motorcycles, every year the government(s) get more entwined in our lives. If you feel these continued intrusions are ok, just don't blame me when you look back and wonder what the heck happened to all the activities you once enjoyed and why those rights were taken away.
Bottom line is that there are far more urgent matters in this country, and abroad, to address by our government bodies. Unfortunately our current political and cultural climate would rather stick its collective head in the sand and focus on meaningless minutia.
So while I may not chose to run straight pipes [or any other exhaust for that matter] on my bike, hats off to those that still have the freedom to do so.
The Denver officer's response is, IMO, fair. However, will all officers in Denver take that view? Without documented federally approved db testing methods, you'll never have a fair system in place. There will always be some irritated officer that hands out tickets and even if your pipes are stamped, quiet, etc., you'll have to either bite the bullet and just pay it or take a day off work, hire a lawyer, and try to fight it. Either way, you lose.
Slowly but surely, especially in regards to activities that the safety ***** in governmnet don't condone, our rights get stripped away. Whether it is free and equal access to ~public~ land for OHV, hunting, , camping, etc. or cracking down on water access for boats or pushing helmet laws and 'tough' noise restrictions on motorcycles, every year the government(s) get more entwined in our lives. If you feel these continued intrusions are ok, just don't blame me when you look back and wonder what the heck happened to all the activities you once enjoyed and why those rights were taken away.
Bottom line is that there are far more urgent matters in this country, and abroad, to address by our government bodies. Unfortunately our current political and cultural climate would rather stick its collective head in the sand and focus on meaningless minutia.
So while I may not chose to run straight pipes [or any other exhaust for that matter] on my bike, hats off to those that still have the freedom to do so.