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Old 09-04-2024, 05:50 PM
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Good evening, I have an 05 FLHTCUI ultra classic that will die (quite a bit) during a ride, but start immediately upon cycling the run off button while I’m still rolling in gear.

Radio stays on, seems to only be killing ignition. I pulled a Po1353 and 1356 (no ignition front jug or rear jug, respectively). Bike runs perfect t otherwise. No alarm system

im thinkin the tip-over sensor, or a relay that gets reset after cycling the run stop switch on the handlebars.

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Go tip your bike over. I think it will say tip or such on screen, Also guessing, the tip sensor told your bike to stop, it wouldn't throw a code.
 
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I spoke to the owner who says the bike has fallen over to rest on the crash guards (foot washed out in a parking lot due to loose gravel) and the bike stayed runnin. He says he didn’t notice any lights on the dash.

I can’t get it to cut off by laying it over on the guards,
it only does it while riding. Seems to idle in N fine. Maybe fuel hose in tank??
 
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Why would loss of gas cause loss of spark? Assuming codes are clue. I have tipped bike over many times, and it does seem tilt is erratic. Though I also think you reaction is to turn off , and not always paying attention. So one time I did it see, and it did say tilt. Point is, not sure it bank sensor.

I did have issue with houses when half full on my 2007. Only did half full. Not that, is a guarantee.

Is he restating with ignition switch or kill switch? Though bad kill switch should not throw a code, I would think. But would have lights on with engine off. But I think lots of things could be causing this.
 
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did the 05 have the circuit breaker under the seat? my 2001 ultra would do that and got worse to where i had to sit on the side of the road for a few minutes to be able to restart.they are cheap enough to try
 
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did the 05 have the circuit breaker under the seat? my 2001 ultra would do that and got worse to where i had to sit on the side of the road for a few minutes to be able to restart.they are cheap enough to try
I am pretty sure it has a main fuse. But he said the radio would be on. So electric is not cutting out He is losing spark or fuel. Codes say spark, according to him.
 
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Why would loss of gas cause loss of spark? Assuming codes are clue. I have tipped bike over many times, and it does seem tilt is erratic. Though I also think you reaction is to turn off , and not always paying attention. So one time I did it see, and it did say tilt. Point is, not sure it bank sensor.

I did have issue with houses when half full on my 2007. Only did half full. Not that, is a guarantee.

Is he restating with ignition switch or kill switch? Though bad kill switch should not throw a code, I would think. But would have lights on with engine off. But I think lots of things could be causing this.

it restarts immediately upon cycling the kill switch on the bars. It’s weird as hell.
 
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I suggest something entirely different as the root cause...Dirty/sticking IAC.
Crankcase venting goes straight into the intake behind the filter and gets the intake assembly all gunked-up over time.
If the AC assembly hasn't been off for a while, then I strongly suspect this to be the culprit.

Pull the air filter assembly off and look at the cleanliness of the butterfly flap and surrounding areas/surfaces inside the intake throat.
Then shoot a lot of MAF cleaner (or similar) into the hole on the roof of the intake throat.
That shoots cleaner all around the IAC plunger/spring.

If the above is at fault, then the engine will often hunt for idle and die after coming to a stop. It will restart as if nothing happened.
It will not do this if you simply start the bike and let it idle.
 
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I have a bit of experience with dirty iac. For me it stalls when coasting to stop. Also usually was a warning, where idle would dip and bounce back when coming to stop
 
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Try flipping the RS switch on and off a number of times with the ignition off. Could be a flaky switch?

Might also be a flaky system relay and the it happens quick enough that it's not caught and an error?

Generally there will be other codes if it's the system relay..
 
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