Modern Touring vs 90s Touring
#21
My primary concerns are:
1. 5 speed vs 6 speed - the difference in comfort/RPMs, the difference in fuel efficiency
2. 5 gallon tank vs 6 gallon tank - nobody wants to get stuck in the middle of nowhere WY
3. Carb efficiency when I'm passing through 12,000+ ft mountain ranges in the Rockies
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2, Its a Harley, so extra gallon on fuel that will give you around 30 miles more in range, really does not apply, since need to stop every few hours to give your body a rest from the vibration. Hence to be able to stay in the saddle that long, then your looking for something that will vibrate less, like a goldwing.
3, CVO carbs will compensate for the difference in altitude.
As for the one not touched/you have not figured out yet, HD did not get the rear tire in the same track line as the front tire until the 2006 bikes.
Next frame change on the 2009 models, and spring loaded to hydro cam hydraulic changes in 2006.
So to break it down, if evo, looking at 1998 for last year of that motor in the touring bikes, and if looking at twin cam, then want the 2009 model of newer.
Also going to be blunt, but if looking for older twin cam, make sure it did not come with ABS, since a problem child from the start, and many of the units that HD no longer carriers when they do go south from owner not power flushing the brake fluid frequently enough (at least every 2 years or shorter depending on where the bike is ridden). Hence with luck if you do end up with abs unit going out, can remove it and change the brake lines, and pray that HD has a way to delete its firmware from the system so you don't end up with standing codes from it not being in play.
Last edited by Dano523; 08-12-2024 at 08:56 AM.
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#22
1, most of the trans did not come with 6h gear as over drive, so just picked up an extra gear in between the 6. On evo, first gear is way too high for 99% of what you going to need, so easy to just change out from sproket to drop RPM as higher speeds. Also, HD speedos tend to read higher than actual, so can get module to correct speedo to real correct mileage with the front pulley swap.
2, Its a Harley, so extra gallon on fuel that will give you around 30 miles more in range, really does not apply, since need to stop every few hours to give your body a rest from the vibration. Hence to be able to stay in the saddle that long, then your looking for something that will vibrate less, like a goldwing.
3, CVO carbs will compensate for the difference in altitude.
As for the one not touched/you have not figured out yet, HD did not get the rear tire in the same track line as the front tire until the 2006 bikes.
Next frame change on the 2009 models, and spring loaded to hydro cam hydraulic changes in 2006.
So to break it down, if evo, looking at 1998 for last year of that motor in the touring bikes, and if looking at twin cam, then want the 2009 model of newer.
Also going to be blunt, but if looking for older twin cam, make sure it did not come with ABS, since a problem child from the start, and many of the units that HD no longer carriers when they do go south from owner not power flushing the brake fluid frequently enough (at least every 2 years or shorter depending on where the bike is ridden). Hence with luck if you do end up with abs unit going out, can remove it and change the brake lines, and pray that HD has a way to delete its firmware from the system so you don't end up with standing codes from it not being in play.
2, Its a Harley, so extra gallon on fuel that will give you around 30 miles more in range, really does not apply, since need to stop every few hours to give your body a rest from the vibration. Hence to be able to stay in the saddle that long, then your looking for something that will vibrate less, like a goldwing.
3, CVO carbs will compensate for the difference in altitude.
As for the one not touched/you have not figured out yet, HD did not get the rear tire in the same track line as the front tire until the 2006 bikes.
Next frame change on the 2009 models, and spring loaded to hydro cam hydraulic changes in 2006.
So to break it down, if evo, looking at 1998 for last year of that motor in the touring bikes, and if looking at twin cam, then want the 2009 model of newer.
Also going to be blunt, but if looking for older twin cam, make sure it did not come with ABS, since a problem child from the start, and many of the units that HD no longer carriers when they do go south from owner not power flushing the brake fluid frequently enough (at least every 2 years or shorter depending on where the bike is ridden). Hence with luck if you do end up with abs unit going out, can remove it and change the brake lines, and pray that HD has a way to delete its firmware from the system so you don't end up with standing codes from it not being in play.
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#23
Again, I appreciate everyone's insightful responses. I'd searched all across the Internet for similar threads/discussions but did not find any. There are some 10+ year old threads on TC vs Evo, but nothing on M8 vs Evo. I figured there may be other people that eventually have this question, and this thread can help them make a decision as well. A lot of threads end up being less objective and more pro-whatever-generation is being discussed, without comparison.
To add some additional insight: I've had M8 issues in the past and been stranded, hundreds of miles from any mechanics or dealers, so the idea of a simpler and more reliable Evo is intriguing. Of course, any bike can have a serious problem beyond what you can fix on the roadside, but not having to worry about an air sensor or a CPS, TPS, etc failing would be nice.
After having three bikes in the garage a year ago, I told myself I'd go back down to one. Less maintenance, lower insurance. I've finally managed to sell both, yet here I am eyeing another.
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#25
Two up and loaded for a trip at 70 mph I'm getting about 48 mpg.
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#26
I agree its nuts not to at this point to buy a 2009-2013 bike as they are so cheap now vs the 2007 on back bikes and they are way better.
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#28
But japs were doing 6 gallon decades before Harley.
Don't get me wrong, bigger the better
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#30
I'll take cruise control. Not sure when it came out.
I'll take tunes or radio.
Better tire mileage I believe on newer wider tires.
I'll take the power, of newer bikes too
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