Rear wheel wobble
#11
Expanding on Rufus13 String Test
Your rear wheel is centererd in swingarm by axle cams
Your Transmission and engine are centered in swingarm by swingarm pivot bolt
Your swingarm pivot bolt is attached to the frame each side of the swingarm in heavy rubber blocks that allow vehicle alignment
Your vehicle alignment is controlled by the engine front motor mount at the front of the engine down by the voltage regulator and oil cooler.
You also have a top engine mount that controls engine, Transmission and Swingarm tilt in the frame
Research Vehicle Alignment your Model and Year
Now back to Rufus13 string theory.............I have used a cheap motorcycle jack from harbor freight having a rectangular top plate that allows holding the bike up straight while weight is still on suspension. I useed to car jack stands a few feet in front of the front wheel. Tie the string to a stand, walk the string around the back tire then back up to the 2nd stand and tie it off. Get the string as high as you can on the bottom of the back tire and as high as you can on the bottom of the front tire then move the jack stands to a point where the string just touches the front and rear of the back tire. That should place the string just touching the front and rear on the front tire. If you can't get both sides touching front and rear of both front and rear tires your alignment is out.
I 1st started doing this on an early rubber mount FXR so that front tire was smaller in width than the rear. In that application you simply measure the string to the sides of the front tire to find if the front wheel is in the center of the strings.
AGAIN, Research Vehicle Alignment to understand your rubber mounted harley davidson
Your rear wheel is centererd in swingarm by axle cams
Your Transmission and engine are centered in swingarm by swingarm pivot bolt
Your swingarm pivot bolt is attached to the frame each side of the swingarm in heavy rubber blocks that allow vehicle alignment
Your vehicle alignment is controlled by the engine front motor mount at the front of the engine down by the voltage regulator and oil cooler.
You also have a top engine mount that controls engine, Transmission and Swingarm tilt in the frame
Research Vehicle Alignment your Model and Year
Now back to Rufus13 string theory.............I have used a cheap motorcycle jack from harbor freight having a rectangular top plate that allows holding the bike up straight while weight is still on suspension. I useed to car jack stands a few feet in front of the front wheel. Tie the string to a stand, walk the string around the back tire then back up to the 2nd stand and tie it off. Get the string as high as you can on the bottom of the back tire and as high as you can on the bottom of the front tire then move the jack stands to a point where the string just touches the front and rear of the back tire. That should place the string just touching the front and rear on the front tire. If you can't get both sides touching front and rear of both front and rear tires your alignment is out.
I 1st started doing this on an early rubber mount FXR so that front tire was smaller in width than the rear. In that application you simply measure the string to the sides of the front tire to find if the front wheel is in the center of the strings.
AGAIN, Research Vehicle Alignment to understand your rubber mounted harley davidson
#12
I would find a really good friend or perhaps a shop or indy dealer that has a rim and tire that already runs good and swap it out on your bike. if your bike still wobbles, you've narrowed it down significantly. That would considerably limit your money expenditure....Good luck
I have a tire and rim off a 13 Street glide, you would have to swap out the bearings for ABS ones, and pay for shipping, but its yours if you want it. It runs true, just to make sure it isn't your rim or tire.
I have a tire and rim off a 13 Street glide, you would have to swap out the bearings for ABS ones, and pay for shipping, but its yours if you want it. It runs true, just to make sure it isn't your rim or tire.
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#13
Expanding on Rufus13 String Test
Your rear wheel is centererd in swingarm by axle cams
Your Transmission and engine are centered in swingarm by swingarm pivot bolt
Your swingarm pivot bolt is attached to the frame each side of the swingarm in heavy rubber blocks that allow vehicle alignment
Your vehicle alignment is controlled by the engine front motor mount at the front of the engine down by the voltage regulator and oil cooler.
You also have a top engine mount that controls engine, Transmission and Swingarm tilt in the frame
Research Vehicle Alignment your Model and Year
Now back to Rufus13 string theory.............I have used a cheap motorcycle jack from harbor freight having a rectangular top plate that allows holding the bike up straight while weight is still on suspension. I useed to car jack stands a few feet in front of the front wheel. Tie the string to a stand, walk the string around the back tire then back up to the 2nd stand and tie it off. Get the string as high as you can on the bottom of the back tire and as high as you can on the bottom of the front tire then move the jack stands to a point where the string just touches the front and rear of the back tire. That should place the string just touching the front and rear on the front tire. If you can't get both sides touching front and rear of both front and rear tires your alignment is out.
I 1st started doing this on an early rubber mount FXR so that front tire was smaller in width than the rear. In that application you simply measure the string to the sides of the front tire to find if the front wheel is in the center of the strings.
AGAIN, Research Vehicle Alignment to understand your rubber mounted harley davidson
Your rear wheel is centererd in swingarm by axle cams
Your Transmission and engine are centered in swingarm by swingarm pivot bolt
Your swingarm pivot bolt is attached to the frame each side of the swingarm in heavy rubber blocks that allow vehicle alignment
Your vehicle alignment is controlled by the engine front motor mount at the front of the engine down by the voltage regulator and oil cooler.
You also have a top engine mount that controls engine, Transmission and Swingarm tilt in the frame
Research Vehicle Alignment your Model and Year
Now back to Rufus13 string theory.............I have used a cheap motorcycle jack from harbor freight having a rectangular top plate that allows holding the bike up straight while weight is still on suspension. I useed to car jack stands a few feet in front of the front wheel. Tie the string to a stand, walk the string around the back tire then back up to the 2nd stand and tie it off. Get the string as high as you can on the bottom of the back tire and as high as you can on the bottom of the front tire then move the jack stands to a point where the string just touches the front and rear of the back tire. That should place the string just touching the front and rear on the front tire. If you can't get both sides touching front and rear of both front and rear tires your alignment is out.
I 1st started doing this on an early rubber mount FXR so that front tire was smaller in width than the rear. In that application you simply measure the string to the sides of the front tire to find if the front wheel is in the center of the strings.
AGAIN, Research Vehicle Alignment to understand your rubber mounted harley davidson
#14
I read you herd a loud Pop, then rode another 1/2 mile finding tire still was over 1/2 full at 20 PSI
Loud pop tires go down to 0 PSI immediately and you fight to maintain balance until you can get it stopped as soon as possible.
Are you sure loud pop wasnt 1 of the vehicle alignment connections? Doesnt take an engineering degree to look.
If I were you, I would check;
1 - both ends of the top mount below gas tank left front as sitting on bike - everything tight?
2 - Front motor mount & Alignment assembly, center of frame down by oil filter - everything still tight?
3 - Rear swingarm pivot rubber blocks - below rear passenger floorboards, usually a football shaped plate with 2 large bolts clamping swingarm assembly to frame. - no missing bolts? I have on 1 occassion had 1 of the cleblock bolts bead broke off but I was carrying a passenger and had the front wheel in the air.
Loud pop tires go down to 0 PSI immediately and you fight to maintain balance until you can get it stopped as soon as possible.
Are you sure loud pop wasnt 1 of the vehicle alignment connections? Doesnt take an engineering degree to look.
If I were you, I would check;
1 - both ends of the top mount below gas tank left front as sitting on bike - everything tight?
2 - Front motor mount & Alignment assembly, center of frame down by oil filter - everything still tight?
3 - Rear swingarm pivot rubber blocks - below rear passenger floorboards, usually a football shaped plate with 2 large bolts clamping swingarm assembly to frame. - no missing bolts? I have on 1 occassion had 1 of the cleblock bolts bead broke off but I was carrying a passenger and had the front wheel in the air.
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#16
Were it mine, I'd raise the rear of the bike and be rotating the rear wheel assembly while watching and measuring. Looking for wheel and or tire runout, axially and radially.
I'm also willing to fire up and "ride" a bike up on lift with the rear wheel off the ground. I'd probably do that, progressively, watching and feeling for vibration in whatever direction.
I rather suspect you've a defective tire.
I'm also willing to fire up and "ride" a bike up on lift with the rear wheel off the ground. I'd probably do that, progressively, watching and feeling for vibration in whatever direction.
I rather suspect you've a defective tire.
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Few things
* Blow out and 20 pounds of pressure?
* Do not use balance goo - Its going to do nothing
* Did you have the issue before the tire went bad
IF NOT
* did the tire fail or did something cause it to fail
* was the mechanicals diagnosed to make certain nothing caused the tire to fail?
* if all is ok, is the new tire bad? What is the condition of the front tire? Are they matched?
Im not certain there was proper diagnosis done. Me, I'd start from square 1 and not trust any of the prior work...
* Blow out and 20 pounds of pressure?
* Do not use balance goo - Its going to do nothing
* Did you have the issue before the tire went bad
IF NOT
* did the tire fail or did something cause it to fail
* was the mechanicals diagnosed to make certain nothing caused the tire to fail?
* if all is ok, is the new tire bad? What is the condition of the front tire? Are they matched?
Im not certain there was proper diagnosis done. Me, I'd start from square 1 and not trust any of the prior work...
#19
#20
While I was waiting for the tow I've tried to roll it back and forth to try and see if there's any foreign object; didn't see anything, neither did I see blowout.
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WP50 (07-25-2024)