It looks like that battery wouldn't be advisable in a typical Las Vegas garage in the summer.

 

Yeah you guys get pretty toasty out in Vegas. Was raised in SoCal most of my life. Vegas and renting a houseboat in Lake Mead were some of my go-to places.

 

I can pull up a ton of videos of ICE vehicles catching fire. Per vehicle, the chance of an ICE vehicle catching fire is 3 times higher than a BEV.

 

There are exponentially more ICE vehicles than EVs on the roads now. There are also 50+ year old ICE vehicles being used daily. The ICE vehicle fires can be extinguished. EV battery fires have to run out of fuel.

 

Based on percentages, gas cars catch fire more often than EV. It's probably due to gas being flammable. Maybe lots of old cars out there too

 

Lithium Polymer (LiPo) fires are class D fires. Molten metal. You can't smother or extinguish them with water. A Class D dry powder extinguisher is needed to put out a LiPo fire, and most extinguishers are only rated at Class A B C.

Even if ICE vehicles were more likely to catch fire, BEV cannot be put out once it catches. They are exponentially more dangerous. Personally, I don't see the advantage at this time, putting that battery in my bike and risking my shop.

 

Lot of people here confused about different lithium technologies and where there used.

 

The bottom line is that LiFePO4 batteries can operate between -4°F - 140°F (-20°C - 60°C). However, their optimal performance is between 41°F - 113°F (5°C - 45C). The issue is with charging the batteries. Most manufacturer's recommend against charging them below 32°F (0°C). In most cases, charging them below that temp can/will damage them.

When I did research about LiFePO4 batteries for RVs, many have heating elements that keep the batteries above 32°F for charging, to avoid damage.

Most of the PowerSports batteries have a BMS (battery management System) that keeps them from being too deeply discharged... a battery killer. I have not researched them enough to note if they have self-warming technology.

I have read that below 32°F they need to be charged slowly to avoid damage, some say the charge rate is too critical. Rather than tyring to control the cold temp charge rate, they suggest wrapping them in thermal blankets, or warming them to ensure they are 32°F or more during charging.

If you search about LiFePO4 batteries and cold weather.. you will find a lot of statements from manufacturers like:

Dakota Lithium Batteries/ 12/6/18:
"We also do not recommend charging our batteries below freezing temperatures. If you are planning to regularly charge your battery below freezing temperatures we recommend the DL+ 12V 135Ah battery which has an internal heating element and is optimal for use in cars, trucks, RVs, off grid solar, and any application where the battery will be charged regularly in extremely cold environments."

Renology 12V 100AH Deep Cycle Lithium Iron Phosphate Battery:
"A true 100A BMS with low-temperature cut-off.
Maximum Charge Current: 100A / Maximum Discharge Current: 100A
Charge Temperature Range: 32°F to 131°F (0°C to 55°C)"

These are just a few comments on temp that I shared.

I know most motorcycles are not ridden below 40°F, so it may be a moot point for most, but low temp charging of Lithium Iron Phosphate batteries and the possibility of damage is a real thing...

 

What percentage of ICE vehicles catch fire? What percentage of EV catch fire?

 

get the Noco LiFePO4 battery, I had two lead acid, but eventually went with this battery. Cranks very well no issues, You need a charger though. But its MUCH lighter and would last longer. I have extensive experience with Lipo and LiFEpO4 from rc helicopters and only the Lipo I ever saw catch fire, they usually swell before this happens. Feel safe to get the Noco battery. The LiFePo4 is very stable and can be drained safely. Good battery. Check this:

Dont worry about aH too much unless you have a lot of accessories you leave running with the bike off. Other than that you will be fine.