ABS or no ABS
#31
RE: ABS or no ABS
Worked on abs cars for a number of years, and dealt with more then a few customers of cars with abs. I never bought a new car with abs, and wont until it cant be done. ABS is like 4wd, and automatics, it cant compensate for good driving and good sense. Had way too many people come in, after they drilled the rear of another car, or lost control in a curve, and say, "my abs doesnt work, something must be wrong, I couldnt control the car!". It cant overcome laws of physics, if your going too fast for conditions, your going to wreck regardless. It may help you maintain steering control, which can be good. However, if you notice, how many cars and trucks wreck in wet and winter weather, and they have abs. It inspires over-confidence, and the feeling you dont have to slow down as much for that curve, or look as far ahead. Drive correctly for conditions, and I'd go on a limb and say nearly all situations wont warrant ABS. Ice is about the only situation Ive seen ABS really pay off, especially when its black ice. Other then that, sand, snow, etc, ABS I find is a hinderance, andhow much of that is goingto affect us? We've gone this long without ABS, is it a must have now?lol. If one wants to get ABS by all means get it and enjoy it, and the first model run headaches, just dont get that false sense of coziness, and ride safe.
#32
RE: ABS or no ABS
Man I wish I could retrofit my 07 with ABS... I'm not just talking about for rain.... I use the front brakes probably more and harder than I should and you know gravel, slick asphalt and the likes - darn near killed myself a couple of times..
I'd definetly get it - wait to get it - or whatever. I'm thinking that extra 750 will pay for itself the first time you don't bite the dust.
I'd definetly get it - wait to get it - or whatever. I'm thinking that extra 750 will pay for itself the first time you don't bite the dust.
#33
RE: ABS or no ABS
ORIGINAL: radrex
Man I wish I could retrofit my 07 with ABS... I'm not just talking about for rain.... I use the front brakes probably more and harder than I should and you know gravel, slick asphalt and the likes - darn near killed myself a couple of times..
I'd definetly get it - wait to get it - or whatever. I'm thinking that extra 750 will pay for itself the first time you don't bite the dust.
Man I wish I could retrofit my 07 with ABS... I'm not just talking about for rain.... I use the front brakes probably more and harder than I should and you know gravel, slick asphalt and the likes - darn near killed myself a couple of times..
I'd definetly get it - wait to get it - or whatever. I'm thinking that extra 750 will pay for itself the first time you don't bite the dust.
#34
RE: ABS or no ABS
ORIGINAL: beary
This is your best argement against ABS? It's purely a cost thing. 15 years ago ABS was $1500 on a $18000 Gold Wing. Only a Gold Wing biker could afford it. Plus the weight of the old units didn't make them practical on lighter bikes. As the technology improves and the cost of ABS comes down, I'm sure you will see them as an option onmore bikes. In fact, I expect ABS will be standard on manybikes, and even scooters in 10 years when the cost has come way down.
Beary
ORIGINAL: gunrunner
ABS on bikes has been around a long time, if it was all that great, why is it still just a option,
ABS on bikes has been around a long time, if it was all that great, why is it still just a option,
Beary
#35
RE: ABS or no ABS
Man, I don't mean to bash anyone's opinion. Maybe I just don't have the riding skills of a lot of you. But.... my 99 Road King has 114K on it, by 2005 BMW R1200RT has 43K on it. The BMW is a daily commuter, I do 105 miles a day in DC traffic. I for one would add ABS to the Road King in a micro second if I could. In heavy traffic emergency stops are common place. I know the ABS on the BMW has saved me NUMEROUS times. Not to mention the added benefit of not having to worry about high siding...
Again, my hat is off to you guys that can out brake ABS, I can't and have a strong suspision there aren't very many Harley riders that can...
I'm building a custom bagger and I"m using Brembo brakes just to help some.
Again, my hat is off to you guys that can out brake ABS, I can't and have a strong suspision there aren't very many Harley riders that can...
I'm building a custom bagger and I"m using Brembo brakes just to help some.
#37
RE: ABS or no ABS
I didn't get it on my 08 ultra classic. I am sure it may help in a panic situation, but I haven't had it this long, and I didn't buy the new gold wing with the air bag either. it's 800 bucks.... that more than pays for the new pipes. I trust ABS, I think it helps, but it adds issues for reliability. If the question was..."would you buy the 09 with ABS", I would say yes, but it's the first year in 08 (at least this system anyway), I'll let someone else be the test subject.
#39
RE: ABS or no ABS
ORIGINAL: gunnert
Again, my hat is off to you guys that can out brake ABS, I can't and have a strong suspision there aren't very many Harley riders that can...
I'm building a custom bagger and I"m using Brembo brakes just to help some.
Again, my hat is off to you guys that can out brake ABS, I can't and have a strong suspision there aren't very many Harley riders that can...
I'm building a custom bagger and I"m using Brembo brakes just to help some.
And as I think someone already mentioned, people rely too much on those safety equipments, having the false sense of security. We have seen it here in Finland, when people buy new cars w/ABS, airbags, antislipping devices(or what the heck those are called, prevent you to do burn outs..)and all thatother safety equip,there has been numerous cases when people drive TOO FAST, especially on the winter, and end up crashing their cars. I think that abs etc are ok, but NOT if you rely on them too much and think that they will save yer sorry a*s everytime you make a mistake..And again, I don´t want abs on my bike..Next step is propably airbags, anti-rolling devices, cages etc etc......Hope not...
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