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Old 05-25-2021, 09:21 AM
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I have an issue with my 03 Ultra Classic fuel injected. When riding stalls intermittently and it is hard to start. I have to wait a few minutes to cool off so it can run again. It is throwing a code but I cannot retrieve them.
i bridge pins 1 and 2 and turned the switch to on and wait for the flashing light and nothing.
The other method is pushing the trip meter and move the switch from the off to ign. The display shows entering the modules but I cannot get them to flash the codes. They remain solid. I do not know what PPU is or the series of numbers that show after pushing the trip button sequentially. thoughts in what I am doing wrong?



 
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Old 05-25-2021, 10:04 AM
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I know you said you jumped pins 1 and 2 together, but this is the procedure to retrieve any trouble codes;

1. Remove right side saddlebag and side cover if so equipped. Remove protective plug from data link connector.

2. To activate the diagnostic feature, proceed as follows:
a. Create diagnostic test wire or use a female spade clip.
b. Install diagnostic test wire across Terminals 1 and 2 on the data link connector.
c. Turn Ignition/Light Key Switch to IGNITION and wait approximately 10 seconds (4 seconds lamp ON, 6 seconds lamp OFF) for check engine lamp to start flashing.

3. All trouble codes are sent out as a series of flashes. To retrieve the first digit of the trouble code simply observe the number of times the lamp flashes.
a. The lamp will then flash one or more times to indicate the first digit of the trouble code.

b. The length of time the lamp is illuminated and the length of time in which it is off are each about 0.5 second in duration.

4. The second digit follows:
a. Following the transmission of the first digit, there is a 1.2 second pause in which the lamp is off.
b. The lamp will then flash one or more times to indicate the second digit of the trouble code. Count the number of times the lamp flashes to retrieve the second digit.

5. If more than one trouble code is sent:
a. Following transmission of the second digit of the first code, there is a 3 second pause in which the lamp is off.
b. Once all codes have been sent, the data string is repeated. When you have recorded the same trouble code twice, it is an indication that the transmission has been restarted and that all trouble codes have been retrieved.

IMPORTANT NOTE ..If diagnostic test wire is installed across Pins 1 and 2 on connector in lieu of a Scanalyzer, the ECM is placed in a diagnostic test mode and the engine will start. The test wire must be removed from the data connector and the ignition switch turned OFF or the check engine lamp will continue to flash codes. A historic trouble code resides in the memory of the ECM until the code is cleared by use of the Scanalyzer or a total of 50 trips has elapsed. A “trip” consists of a start and run cycle, the run cycle lasting at least 30 seconds. After the 50 trip retention period, the trouble code is automatically erased from memory (that is, assuming no subsequent faults of the same type are detected in that period). The numbers after the 'historic' or 'current' is the speedo code number, but without the electrical diognostics manual you're peeing into the wind.

1 Current 53 ECM flash error
2 Historic 53 ECM flash error
3 Current 54 ECM EEPROM error
4 Historic 54 ECM EEPROM error
5 Current 63 ECM serial data low
6 Current 63 ECM serial data open/high
7 Current 63 TSSM serial data low
8 Current 63 TSSM serial data open/high
9 Current 61 Loss of TSM/TSSM serial data
10 Current 14 Loss of all ECM serial data (state of health)
10 24 Loss of vehicle speed
10 33 Loss of vehicle inhibit motion
10 43 Loss of power train security status
11 Current 33 System relay contacts open
12 Current 33 System relay coil high/shorted
13 Current 33 System relay coil open/low
14 Current 33 System relay contacts closed
15 Current 99 Incorrect password
16 Current 99 Missing password
17 Current 41 CKP sensor intermittent
18 Current 41 CKP sensor synch error
19 Current 11 TP sensor open/low
20 Current 11 TP sensor high
21 Current 12 MAP sensor open/low
22 Current 12 MAP sensor high
23 Current 14 ET sensor voltage low
24 Current 14 ET sensor open/high
25 Current 15 IAT sensor voltage low
26 Current 15 IAT sensor open/high
27 Current 24 Front ignition coil open/low
28 Current 25 Rear ignition coil open/low
29 Current 24 Front ignition coil high/shorted
30 Current 25 Rear ignition coil high/shorted
31 Current 24 Front cylinder combustion intermittent
32 Current 25 Rear cylinder combustion intermittent
33 Current 23 Front injector open/low
34 Current 32 Rear injector open/low
35 Current 23 Front injector high
36 Current 32 Rear injector high
37 Current 16 Battery voltage low
38 Current 16 Battery voltage high
39 Current 43 VSS sensor low
40 Current 43 VSS sensor high
41 Current N/A (no speedo code for this) Check engine light open/low NO CHECK ENGINE LAMP AT KEY ON or CHECK ENGINE LAMP ON CONTINUOUSLY
42 Current N/A (no speedo code for this) Check engine light high NO CHECK ENGINE LAMP AT KEY ON
43 Current 35 Tachometer low
44 Current 35 Tachometer high
45 Current 25 Rear cylinder no combustion
46 Current 24 Front cylinder no combustion
47 Current 34 Loss of idle speed control IDLE AIR CONTROL
48 Current 35 Accelerometer fault
49 Current 34 Starter output high
50 Current 25 Ignition enable output high
51 Current 21 Left turn output fault
52 Current 22 Right turn output fault
53 Current 11 Battery voltage high
54 Current 31 Alarm output low
55 Current 32 Alarm output high
56 Current 41 Ignition switch open/low
57 Historic 63 ECM serial data low
58 Historic 63 ECM serial data open/high
59 Historic 63 TSSM serial data low
60 Historic 63 TSSM serial data open/high
61 Historic 61 Loss of TSM/TSSM serial data
62 Historic 14 Loss of all ECM serial data (state of health)
63 Historic 33 System relay contacts open
64 Historic 33 System relay coil high/shorted
65 Historic 33 System relay coil open/low
66 Historic 33 System relay contacts closed
67 Historic 99 Incorrect password
68 Historic 99 Missing password
69 Historic 41 CKP sensor intermittent
70 Historic 41 CKP sensor synch error
71 Historic 11 TP sensor open/low
72 Historic 11 TP sensor high
73 Historic 12 MAP sensor open/low
74 Historic 12 MAP sensor high
75 Historic 14 ET sensor voltage low
76 Historic 14 ET sensor open/high
77 Historic 15 IAT sensor voltage low
78 Historic 15 IAT sensor open/high
79 Historic 24 Front ignition coil open/low
80 Historic 25 Rear ignition coil open/low
81 Historic 24 Front ignition coil high/shorted
82 Historic 25 Rear ignition coil high/shorted
83 Historic 24 Front cylinder combustion intermittent
84 Historic 25 Rear cylinder combustion intermittent
85 Historic 23 Front injector open/low
86 Historic 32 Rear injector open/low
87 Historic 23 Front injector high
88 Historic 32 Rear injector high
89 Historic 16 Battery voltage low
90 Historic 16 Battery voltage high
91 Historic 43 VSS sensor low
92 Historic 43 VSS sensor high
93 Historic N/A Check engine light open/low NO CHECK ENGINE LAMP AT KEY ON or CHECK ENGINE LAMP ON CONTINUOUSLY
94 Historic N/A Check engine light high NO CHECK ENGINE LAMP AT KEY ON
95 Historic 35 Tachometer low
96 Historic 35 Tachometer high
97 Historic 25 Rear cylinder no combustion
98 Historic 24 Front cylinder no combustion
99 Historic 34 Loss of idle speed control
100 Historic 35 Accelerometer fault
101 Historic 34 Starter output high
102 Historic 25 Ignition enable output high
103 Historic 21 Left turn output fault
104 Historic 22 Right turn output fault
105 Historic 11 Battery voltage high
106 Historic 31 Alarm output low
107 Historic 32 Alarm output high
108 Historic 41 Ignition switch open/low
 
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Old 05-25-2021, 10:26 AM
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Thanks TriGlide. I must be doing something wrong then. I followed the instructions after the wire across terminals (2,b) and I waited and light do not flashes (2.c). I tested the battery and is at 12.4V with a DMM and drops to 9.9V when cranking.
 
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I don't remember if the 03 was different than the 07 Ultra Classic I had, but maybe this will work;Get Into DTC Viewing Mode:
  1. Press and hold the odometer button in (can be located in different positions depending on your model/year)
  2. While holding odometer button in, turn ignition to “on” position
    1. Keep holding the odometer button in until you see “diAG” appear in the odometer window
      1. Release the odometer button and you are in the DTC viewing mode
Viewing and clearing DTC's: (Clear codes at your own risk)(Make sure you know what you are doing or consult a Harley mechanic)
  1. Press & release the odometer button to enter the DTC mode module
  2. Press & release the odometer button to cycle through the different modules
    1. To check any module press & hold the odometer button until it enters
      1. If it says “none” then that module has no DTC's
        1. If it says “yes” then press & release the odometer button to get the DTC
        2. You will also have an option to “clear” the code
      2. Press & release the odometer button again and it cycles to the HD part number for that module
      3. Press & release the odometer button and it cycles back to the main module
        1. Continue as stated above to continue to check each module for DTC's
  3. Turn ignition off to exit DTC mode
 
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Old 05-25-2021, 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by 16_Tri-Glide
I don't remember if the 03 was different than the 07 Ultra Classic I had, but maybe this will work;Get Into DTC Viewing Mode:
  1. Press and hold the odometer button in (can be located in different positions depending on your model/year)
  2. While holding odometer button in, turn ignition to “on” position
    1. Keep holding the odometer button in until you see “diAG” appear in the odometer window
      1. Release the odometer button and you are in the DTC viewing mode
Viewing and clearing DTC's: (Clear codes at your own risk)(Make sure you know what you are doing or consult a Harley mechanic)
  1. Press & release the odometer button to enter the DTC mode module
  2. Press & release the odometer button to cycle through the different modules
    1. To check any module press & hold the odometer button until it enters
      1. If it says “none” then that module has no DTC's
        1. If it says “yes” then press & release the odometer button to get the DTC
        2. You will also have an option to “clear” the code
      2. Press & release the odometer button again and it cycles to the HD part number for that module
      3. Press & release the odometer button and it cycles back to the main module
        1. Continue as stated above to continue to check each module for DTC's
  3. Turn ignition off to exit DTC mode
Awesome Boss, but I followed the above and it takes me to the banks d01clr all the way to d09clr. Maybe no codes? I am on my way to get a new battery. This one is at 73% efficiency on my friends analizer after it is fully charged (12.4V). I'll keep you posted. I am going to test the CKPS (crankshaft position sensor) afterwards to see if that's the culprit.

 
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It was confirmed that the screen shown means no codes. The problem was replicated and it was determined that root-cause of the problem was the crankshaft position sensor.
 

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Originally Posted by papichuloy2k
It was confirmed that the screen shown means no codes. The problem was replicated and it was determined that root-cause of the problem was the crankshaft position sensor.
I started reading this thread because I had the same problem while back while a road trip 800 miles from home. Simple fix once I figured it out. This interweb thing can be useful sometimes. Glad you got it resolved.
 
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Originally Posted by Pog Mo Thoin
I started reading this thread because I had the same problem while back while a road trip 800 miles from home. Simple fix once I figured it out. This interweb thing can be useful sometimes. Glad you got it resolved.
It is crazy how this sensor mess your scoot when working erratically. I am glad you fix it too.
 
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