96" Motor Upgrades - Anyone done any yet?
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96" Motor Upgrades - Anyone done any yet?
Just curious if anyone has done any upgrades internally to their 96" engine yet? I am sure someone has but after searching I couldn't come up with anything. For any of those who can offer me some ideas / recommendations, I welcome the feedback.
My current ride is an '07 FLHX. I came off of an 03' Softail that I did a 95" kit on which included heads ported. I never upgraded the throttle body. While I love the new bike I miss the power of the old bike. What I am looking for in the new build is TORQUE! Peak numbers are not important but a very flat curve is what I am looking for.
Some of my questions are:
Heads - Harley heads or taking them to a proven shop for porting?
Throttle Body _ Worth the cost to upgrade?
Cams - Recommendations. The last ones I used gave me great peak numbers but the powerband was 3500 rpm and up. Not what I plan on for the bagger.
Does using Harley parts help with reslae / trade? Not that I plan on it but if I am torn between 2 it could be the difference maker.
Has anyone done cams only? This would be the least expensive option.
If I am going to do the heads the 103" kit is a given but if I do cams only would it be neccessary.
Thanks in advance for any help.
My current ride is an '07 FLHX. I came off of an 03' Softail that I did a 95" kit on which included heads ported. I never upgraded the throttle body. While I love the new bike I miss the power of the old bike. What I am looking for in the new build is TORQUE! Peak numbers are not important but a very flat curve is what I am looking for.
Some of my questions are:
Heads - Harley heads or taking them to a proven shop for porting?
Throttle Body _ Worth the cost to upgrade?
Cams - Recommendations. The last ones I used gave me great peak numbers but the powerband was 3500 rpm and up. Not what I plan on for the bagger.
Does using Harley parts help with reslae / trade? Not that I plan on it but if I am torn between 2 it could be the difference maker.
Has anyone done cams only? This would be the least expensive option.
If I am going to do the heads the 103" kit is a given but if I do cams only would it be neccessary.
Thanks in advance for any help.
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07-23-2007, 08:05 PM
RE: 96" Motor Upgrades - Anyone done any yet?
Call someone like HeadQuarters or R&R and talk to them about "packages" that meet your needs.
For a typical 103" build, a larger ($$$) TB would not be necessary. While it might slightly increase the HP #'s at the very tip top, it WILL hurt torque down low.
You should be able to get a nice, very "rideable" 103" Bagger build from either of them that will easily make 115/115 and not have to break the bank to get it.
For a typical 103" build, a larger ($$$) TB would not be necessary. While it might slightly increase the HP #'s at the very tip top, it WILL hurt torque down low.
You should be able to get a nice, very "rideable" 103" Bagger build from either of them that will easily make 115/115 and not have to break the bank to get it.
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07-23-2007, 08:19 PM
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RE: 96" Motor Upgrades - Anyone done any yet?
Read a couple places of builders bragging they have made at or close to 100/100 without goin to 103, and with the 103 cylinders, getting 110 or so? Ive got the same ride as you, so Ive been snooping as well, winter project maybe. I keep reading, have the stock heads ported, and go with a mild cam. Im still looking and reading myself, not alot of info out there yet!
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07-23-2007, 09:17 PM
RE: 96" Motor Upgrades - Anyone done any yet?
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Just curious if anyone has done any upgrades internally to their 96" engine yet? I am sure someone has but after searching I couldn't come up with anything. For any of those who can offer me some ideas / recommendations, I welcome the feedback.
My current ride is an '07 FLHX. I came off of an 03' Softail that I did a 95" kit on which included heads ported. I never upgraded the throttle body. While I love the new bike I miss the power of the old bike. What I am looking for in the new build is TORQUE! Peak numbers are not important but a very flat curve is what I am looking for.
Some of my questions are:
Heads - Harley heads or taking them to a proven shop for porting?
Throttle Body _ Worth the cost to upgrade?
Cams - Recommendations. The last ones I used gave me great peak numbers but the powerband was 3500 rpm and up. Not what I plan on for the bagger.
Does using Harley parts help with reslae / trade? Not that I plan on it but if I am torn between 2 it could be the difference maker.
Has anyone done cams only? This would be the least expensive option.
If I am going to do the heads the 103" kit is a given but if I do cams only would it be neccessary.
Thanks in advance for any help.
Just curious if anyone has done any upgrades internally to their 96" engine yet? I am sure someone has but after searching I couldn't come up with anything. For any of those who can offer me some ideas / recommendations, I welcome the feedback.
My current ride is an '07 FLHX. I came off of an 03' Softail that I did a 95" kit on which included heads ported. I never upgraded the throttle body. While I love the new bike I miss the power of the old bike. What I am looking for in the new build is TORQUE! Peak numbers are not important but a very flat curve is what I am looking for.
Some of my questions are:
Heads - Harley heads or taking them to a proven shop for porting?
Throttle Body _ Worth the cost to upgrade?
Cams - Recommendations. The last ones I used gave me great peak numbers but the powerband was 3500 rpm and up. Not what I plan on for the bagger.
Does using Harley parts help with reslae / trade? Not that I plan on it but if I am torn between 2 it could be the difference maker.
Has anyone done cams only? This would be the least expensive option.
If I am going to do the heads the 103" kit is a given but if I do cams only would it be neccessary.
Thanks in advance for any help.
Another problem is the lack of canned maps for the PCIII, as to my knowledge there just aren't any. Jamie at Fuel Moto promised some toward the end of the summer, and I'll wait around and see if something interesting arises.
If you were interested in bumping your 96" up to 103", I'm sure there are more opportunities there, but I'm not going the BB route for just a few extra HP and probably no additional TQ.
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RE: 96" Motor Upgrades - Anyone done any yet?
Like Phil said go with big picture in mind using proven combo, otherwise you end up buying parts twice that are not compatable. I lost power using Harley SE heads. Have yours ported or buy a take off set and have them done to save down time. I dissagree on losing torque with throttle body. I did not lose any torque switching to 57 mm Kuryakyn throttle body, they only flow what the engine can take. Use a good Race Tuner or some other compatable brand that works well for dialing in the injection. Go to a GOOD dyno tuner and spend the money it will be worth it. I picked up about 10 more horse using good tuner over my first tune.
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RE: 96" Motor Upgrades - Anyone done any yet?
Thanks for the heads up guys. I will surely post any other findings I have. One thing I have read is that you have to be careful not to oversize the TB as it is not neccessarily the volume that flows into the heads but the velocity. A larger bore TB will slow the speed in which the mixture flows into the combustion chamber. I am only repeating what I have heard but it does make sense to me.
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