How many miles must be on a motorcycle before a dealer considers the bike *not* to be "new"?

I know they ride the bikes a certain specified amount during setup (8 miles?), and then you have the test drives but is a bike with > 100 miles on it still "new"?

Or must the bike be sold at least once after leaving the factory before it's not considered new anymore?

My dealer has bikes with 20+ miles on them that they say are "new" but just "test driven". It seems guys test drive a color they don't like and then buy a low mileage one.

Maybe I'm too picky, but when I buy something labeled new it should not be ridden by anyone except the tech assembling the bike from the crate.

 

I have no experience or insight into this issue, but I'm interested in the feedback you get.

 

If they have not been titled yet they are considered NEW. Same way car dealerships sell DEMO's as New..

 

There is no crate anymore. The bikes are on a metal sled and fully assembled at the factory. Once the bikes are tested on dyno, they move to shipment area where the windshields, antennas removed, battery disconnected for shipment. They are strapped to the sled, wrapped in plastic and shipped.

 

I believe new is defined by a sale date, not mileage. I recently looked at a "used" 2018 Limited with 400 miles, but since the warranty started the day of the first sale, it couldn't really be sold as new. I think a demo bike with more miles would be sold as new with a full warranty.

Beary

 

So no more" freight and prep" charge?

 

 

Yes, this.

If a new one has too many demo miles for you either ask for (or find) a similar one with the milage you consider appropriate or negotiate concessions that would mitigate what you consider excessive milage.

 

As soon as it is titled, it is no longer new.

 

Two entirely different items. Freight is added by the MOCO to cover the cost of getting the bikes from the factory to the dealers.

Setup is added by some dealers as an additional profit center.