Now is maybe the time to buy.
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06-28-2007, 03:52 PM
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Now is maybe the time to buy.
Local dealer is not to happy. Said the 08 models will be coming
in,around the middle of July,and he still has 107 of 07s in stock.
Thats what can happen when your pricing is $3000 over MSRP.
Will be interesting to see what the 07 RK prices are,once the 08s
hit the floor. Maybe time to make a deal.
in,around the middle of July,and he still has 107 of 07s in stock.
Thats what can happen when your pricing is $3000 over MSRP.
Will be interesting to see what the 07 RK prices are,once the 08s
hit the floor. Maybe time to make a deal.
#2
06-28-2007, 04:13 PM
Road Warrior
RE: Now is maybe the time to buy.
That's funny, in the early part of the decade they sold like hotcakes at $3K above MSRP. You had to shop around. Today, at least here in the SouthWest, it's the slowdown in home refi's as property values dropped, interest rates increased and sub-prime forclosures are booming. At lot of people refi'd on new higher home values and bought Hogs. What goes up must come down, at least to some degree.
#3
06-28-2007, 04:39 PM
RE: Now is maybe the time to buy.
I think you are correct. Now should bea good time to buy. I think the golden days of HD stealers ripping people off is nearly over. At least I hope so... Of course I just bought a '07 Electra Glide Classic and do not ever plan on buying another Harley again so doesn't really matter to me.
#4
06-28-2007, 04:43 PM
Stellar HDF Member
RE: Now is maybe the time to buy.
Spoke to an ex-employee of hd, he said inventory is a house of mirrors and the actual cost of material to build the bike is some rediculous figure like 2k and hd has these whare houses full of bikes that were not called for or did not "really pass' wink wink .final insp. ie make stock holders numbers high? my local dealer is charging msrp and no breaks...yet?
#5
06-28-2007, 04:51 PM
RE: Now is maybe the time to buy.
Dont be fooled by them. They might have 100, 2007 models left, but they can move them very fast if they choose...some dealers will do $2000 under msrp with the special fiance deal and all these bikes will be gone in a week or two. They will try to get the most they can for them until the 2008s are on their way. Once they are out of time and really have to move them, they will deal on them.
#6
06-28-2007, 04:53 PM
RE: Now is maybe the time to buy.
Ive been seeing as much as @ 800 to 1000 under msrp locally.Hopefully the 08s will be improved.That some of these improvements can be applied to the 07s.Take it from someone that rushed out and got an early 07-WAIT for the feedback-mid yr productions should give you a good idea if the hype is true.
#7
06-28-2007, 04:54 PM
RE: Now is maybe the time to buy.
http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=624367
Harley dealers turn to discounts
They report slower motorcycle sales as new lineup nears
By RICK BARRETT
rbarrett@journalsentinel.com
Posted: June 25, 2007
Harley-Davidson motorcycle dealers who have charged premium prices for bikes are easing back on the throttle as sales slow and customers wait for Harley's 2008 product lineup that's being announced in July.
Discounts
Photo/Michele Jokinen
A 2007 model Harley-Davidson Softail Custom sits outside Harley headquarters in Milwaukee. Harley dealers are struggling to clean out inventory as the company prepares to announce its 2008 lineup
[/align]
[/align][align=right][/align][/align]American consumers are spending less in certain areas, including motorcycles, boats and all-terrain vehicles, Craig Kennison, a Robert W. Baird & Co. analyst, said Monday.
To assess current trends, Kennison recently surveyed 40 Harley dealers in the U.S. and Canada.
What he found was retail demand was weaker than expected. More bikes were selling below the manufacturer's suggested retail price, and dealers were discounting 2007 models to clear them out before the 2008 models arrive.
Among the surveyed dealers, sales were soft in April but improved in May and June. Nearly half of the dealers said new bike sales were flat (11%) or down (38%) April through June.
Some dealers are worried that the supply of Harleys is outpacing the demand, creating unhealthy competition among dealers, Kennison wrote in a report issued Monday.
"There is plenty of business for everyone. Unfortunately, many dealers have started discounting," one survey respondent wrote in Kennison's report.
For years, many motorcycle dealerships charged more than the manufacturer's suggested retail price for popular Harley models such as Softails and Road Kings. Some bikes were in such short supply that if one customer walked away, another would pay a premium to avoid waiting months for a new motorcycle.
But those days may largely be gone as many potential Harley riders refuse to pay over the manufacturer's suggested retail price for a motorcycle. In one survey, by Harley-Davidson, more than 80% of the people interested in owning a Harley said that having to pay more than the MSRP was a reason they would not buy a bike.
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Harley dealers turn to discounts
They report slower motorcycle sales as new lineup nears
By RICK BARRETT
rbarrett@journalsentinel.com
Posted: June 25, 2007
Harley-Davidson motorcycle dealers who have charged premium prices for bikes are easing back on the throttle as sales slow and customers wait for Harley's 2008 product lineup that's being announced in July.
Discounts
Photo/Michele Jokinen
A 2007 model Harley-Davidson Softail Custom sits outside Harley headquarters in Milwaukee. Harley dealers are struggling to clean out inventory as the company prepares to announce its 2008 lineup
[/align]
[/align][align=right][/align][/align]American consumers are spending less in certain areas, including motorcycles, boats and all-terrain vehicles, Craig Kennison, a Robert W. Baird & Co. analyst, said Monday.
To assess current trends, Kennison recently surveyed 40 Harley dealers in the U.S. and Canada.
What he found was retail demand was weaker than expected. More bikes were selling below the manufacturer's suggested retail price, and dealers were discounting 2007 models to clear them out before the 2008 models arrive.
Among the surveyed dealers, sales were soft in April but improved in May and June. Nearly half of the dealers said new bike sales were flat (11%) or down (38%) April through June.
Some dealers are worried that the supply of Harleys is outpacing the demand, creating unhealthy competition among dealers, Kennison wrote in a report issued Monday.
"There is plenty of business for everyone. Unfortunately, many dealers have started discounting," one survey respondent wrote in Kennison's report.
For years, many motorcycle dealerships charged more than the manufacturer's suggested retail price for popular Harley models such as Softails and Road Kings. Some bikes were in such short supply that if one customer walked away, another would pay a premium to avoid waiting months for a new motorcycle.
But those days may largely be gone as many potential Harley riders refuse to pay over the manufacturer's suggested retail price for a motorcycle. In one survey, by Harley-Davidson, more than 80% of the people interested in owning a Harley said that having to pay more than the MSRP was a reason they would not buy a bike.
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#8
06-28-2007, 04:54 PM
RE: Now is maybe the time to buy.
jack, is this Manchester HD? Funny because I just posted yesterday about them having a TON of 07's in stock on their website. Looks like a good place to shop for an '07....... 
ORIGINAL: jack49
Local dealer is not to happy. Said the 08 models will be coming
in,around the middle of July,and he still has 107 of 07s in stock.
Thats what can happen when your pricing is $3000 over MSRP.
Will be interesting to see what the 07 RK prices are,once the 08s
hit the floor. Maybe time to make a deal.
Local dealer is not to happy. Said the 08 models will be coming
in,around the middle of July,and he still has 107 of 07s in stock.
Thats what can happen when your pricing is $3000 over MSRP.
Will be interesting to see what the 07 RK prices are,once the 08s
hit the floor. Maybe time to make a deal.
#9
06-28-2007, 04:56 PM
RE: Now is maybe the time to buy.
there fixed the post
ORIGINAL: nightglide
http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=624367
Harley dealers turn to discounts
They report slower motorcycle sales as new lineup nears
By RICK BARRETT
rbarrett@journalsentinel.com
Posted: June 25, 2007
Harley-Davidson motorcycle dealers who have charged premium prices for bikes are easing back on the throttle as sales slow and customers wait for Harley's 2008 product lineup that's being announced in July.
Discounts
Photo/Michele Jokinen
A 2007 model Harley-Davidson Softail Custom sits outside Harley headquarters in Milwaukee. Harley dealers are struggling to clean out inventory as the company prepares to announce its 2008 lineup
[/align]
[/align][align=right][/align][/align]American consumers are spending less in certain areas, including motorcycles, boats and all-terrain vehicles, Craig Kennison, a Robert W. Baird & Co. analyst, said Monday.
To assess current trends, Kennison recently surveyed 40 Harley dealers in the U.S. and Canada.
What he found was retail demand was weaker than expected. More bikes were selling below the manufacturer's suggested retail price, and dealers were discounting 2007 models to clear them out before the 2008 models arrive.
Among the surveyed dealers, sales were soft in April but improved in May and June. Nearly half of the dealers said new bike sales were flat (11%) or down (38%) April through June.
Some dealers are worried that the supply of Harleys is outpacing the demand, creating unhealthy competition among dealers, Kennison wrote in a report issued Monday.
"There is plenty of business for everyone. Unfortunately, many dealers have started discounting," one survey respondent wrote in Kennison's report.
For years, many motorcycle dealerships charged more than the manufacturer's suggested retail price for popular Harley models such as Softails and Road Kings. Some bikes were in such short supply that if one customer walked away, another would pay a premium to avoid waiting months for a new motorcycle.
But those days may largely be gone as many potential Harley riders refuse to pay over the manufacturer's suggested retail price for a motorcycle. In one survey, by Harley-Davidson, more than 80% of the people interested in owning a Harley said that having to pay more than the MSRP was a reason they would not buy a bike.
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http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=624367
Harley dealers turn to discounts
They report slower motorcycle sales as new lineup nears
By RICK BARRETT
rbarrett@journalsentinel.com
Posted: June 25, 2007
Harley-Davidson motorcycle dealers who have charged premium prices for bikes are easing back on the throttle as sales slow and customers wait for Harley's 2008 product lineup that's being announced in July.
DiscountsPhoto/Michele Jokinen
A 2007 model Harley-Davidson Softail Custom sits outside Harley headquarters in Milwaukee. Harley dealers are struggling to clean out inventory as the company prepares to announce its 2008 lineup
[/align]
[/align][align=right][/align][/align]American consumers are spending less in certain areas, including motorcycles, boats and all-terrain vehicles, Craig Kennison, a Robert W. Baird & Co. analyst, said Monday.
To assess current trends, Kennison recently surveyed 40 Harley dealers in the U.S. and Canada.
What he found was retail demand was weaker than expected. More bikes were selling below the manufacturer's suggested retail price, and dealers were discounting 2007 models to clear them out before the 2008 models arrive.
Among the surveyed dealers, sales were soft in April but improved in May and June. Nearly half of the dealers said new bike sales were flat (11%) or down (38%) April through June.
Some dealers are worried that the supply of Harleys is outpacing the demand, creating unhealthy competition among dealers, Kennison wrote in a report issued Monday.
"There is plenty of business for everyone. Unfortunately, many dealers have started discounting," one survey respondent wrote in Kennison's report.
For years, many motorcycle dealerships charged more than the manufacturer's suggested retail price for popular Harley models such as Softails and Road Kings. Some bikes were in such short supply that if one customer walked away, another would pay a premium to avoid waiting months for a new motorcycle.
But those days may largely be gone as many potential Harley riders refuse to pay over the manufacturer's suggested retail price for a motorcycle. In one survey, by Harley-Davidson, more than 80% of the people interested in owning a Harley said that having to pay more than the MSRP was a reason they would not buy a bike.
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06-28-2007, 05:08 PM
