Screaming Eagle Stage 4 kit
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07 Dyna, believe me I do enjoy my bagger, I traded my 2012 in for the 16’ model. I mentioned early on about keeping up with 107 M8 but my purpose is dual fold. My wife also has a harley but when we go on vacation we’re on mine. With the weight of 2 riders and being loaded down with luggage that extra torque is what I’m looking for on highways and mountains. The guys here in the forum have given some great info and advise, which is why I joined. I’m not a member of the old rich fart one-up club, I still work my tail off. I think changing out the cams should give me what I’m looking for. When I want to really rip it up I jump on the Ducati.
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I didn't say you should do anything. I just asked what is, to me, a very logical question.
Never mind YOU. I'll talk about me. I love my Road King. Major problem is, somebody souped it up. Is it fast? HELL no - never will be - never could be - 'cause it weighs >800 plus pounds and spins 6,500 rpm, tops. But now it runs "funny" - have to hit fast revs to get it away from a light... big cam and all that... And for what - to be a giggle for the boys on the Hyabusas?
You are much more than welcome to do whatever you want with what is yous. I would just like to know why. Why race, when you have no chance of winning? Why mess up a stock motor, making it a lot less fun 99% of the time?
Somebody did a really good job on my Road King. It never vibrates - one bit - above idle. That much I like. Is it faster than a stock bike - oh yeah. But a 750 4 Honda will embarrass the **** out of me...
Anyhow - gotta go. My latest project is my sailboat. I'm gonna nail some wings to that sucker, and...
Never mind YOU. I'll talk about me. I love my Road King. Major problem is, somebody souped it up. Is it fast? HELL no - never will be - never could be - 'cause it weighs >800 plus pounds and spins 6,500 rpm, tops. But now it runs "funny" - have to hit fast revs to get it away from a light... big cam and all that... And for what - to be a giggle for the boys on the Hyabusas?
You are much more than welcome to do whatever you want with what is yous. I would just like to know why. Why race, when you have no chance of winning? Why mess up a stock motor, making it a lot less fun 99% of the time?
Somebody did a really good job on my Road King. It never vibrates - one bit - above idle. That much I like. Is it faster than a stock bike - oh yeah. But a 750 4 Honda will embarrass the **** out of me...
Anyhow - gotta go. My latest project is my sailboat. I'm gonna nail some wings to that sucker, and...
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I have the 103 Stage IV kit, high flow air cleaner assembly, Screamin Eagle High Flow exhaust system (decatted), and the SEPST on my 2015 Ultra Limited. Bike runs really good and has a very big usable powerband. Exhaust tone is very deep and not raspy at all. The 110 tire Shredder gives you 7 more cubic inches and the SE585 cam instead of the SE259 cam.
Now for my (sincere) question. Why?
If you ride a Carabau (and I *LIKE* my Carabau!) why try to make it fast?
If you want a fast bike, why not just buy one?
There may be some irony in the idiom "you cant make a silk purse out of a sow's ear." A sow is a female hog![Smile](https://www.hdforums.com/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif)
Is this a one-upmanship thing, among a bunch of rich old frats? Or what? I just don't get it.
The simplest of logic tells us that trying to ride that Carabau fast might not be the best idea you ever had...
If you ride a Carabau (and I *LIKE* my Carabau!) why try to make it fast?
If you want a fast bike, why not just buy one?
There may be some irony in the idiom "you cant make a silk purse out of a sow's ear." A sow is a female hog
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Is this a one-upmanship thing, among a bunch of rich old frats? Or what? I just don't get it.
The simplest of logic tells us that trying to ride that Carabau fast might not be the best idea you ever had...
I also drive a Duramax Diesel. From they factory, they have PLENTY of POWER. I do still have the stock air box on it, but I opened up to a free flowing 4" exhaust to help keep temps down and I got a decent tune put on it. I didn't go for max numbers, but having a little more oomph to move a trailer up a hill or even get the load moving is nice. It just so happens to add a little "fun" to the mix when unloaded as well. I have touched triple digits twice in that truck, and rarely see anything over 75 (which is what I cruise in the 80mph midwest) so FAST is definitely not what I am after.
Remember, POWER is not synonymous to SPEED.
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I have the 103 Stage IV kit, high flow air cleaner assembly, Screamin Eagle High Flow exhaust system (decatted), and the SEPST on my 2015 Ultra Limited. Bike runs really good and has a very big usable powerband. Exhaust tone is very deep and not raspy at all. The 110 tire Shredder gives you 7 more cubic inches and the SE585 cam instead of the SE259 cam.
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They had one in 17. It wasn't a 110 Tire Shredder and remained a 103 and had CNC Wet Heads 58 MM Throttle body and 259E cams and 10.5 pistons. Part number is 92500019. May not have them now as didn't check the 18 catalog. I helped guy today with map on 15 FLHTK with fresh install 103 stage 4. Wasn't broken in yet, but is running pretty well. Not a tire shredder. Atleast 7 torque and HP short of tire shredder as same compression, same heads, but 7 Cubic Inches short of 110.
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THIS is a Carabau. The Philippine equivalent of a farm tractor. They race Carabau at fiesta time...
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THIS is a fast motorcycle.
Now for my (sincere) question. Why?
If you ride a Carabau (and I *LIKE* my Carabau!) why try to make it fast?
If you want a fast bike, why not just buy one?
There may be some irony in the idiom "you cant make a silk purse out of a sow's ear." A sow is a female hog
![Smile](https://www.hdforums.com/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif)
Is this a one-upmanship thing, among a bunch of rich old frats? Or what? I just don't get it.
The simplest of logic tells us that trying to ride that Carabau fast might not be the best idea you ever had...
.that’s hard work.
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They had one in 17. It wasn't a 110 Tire Shredder and remained a 103 and had CNC Wet Heads 58 MM Throttle body and 259E cams and 10.5 pistons. Part number is 92500019. May not have them now as didn't check the 18 catalog. I helped guy today with map on 15 FLHTK with fresh install 103 stage 4. Wasn't broken in yet, but is running pretty well. Not a tire shredder. Atleast 7 torque and HP short of tire shredder as same compression, same heads, but 7 Cubic Inches short of 110.
I'm also toying with just forgoing the HD stuff and possible doing a FM kit, either 107 or 110 and also looking at the 106-110 offerings from S&S.
My main interest in keeping HD stuff is for warranty purposes. I had an M8 and went back to a still new on the floor FLHTK and with it came a dealer supplied "warranty forever", so that keeps my head spinning HD products.
Currently I'm at a stage 1 with S&S stealth air intake, FM Jackpot 2-1 and their canned powervision map.
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You seem to be around these stage kits quite a bit, thanks for the info. I'm toying with the idea of installing the 92500019 kit stage 4 (keeps it @ 103) or the 92500035 kit which takes the motor to 110. I assume there are pluses/minuses to each of these. Biggest complaint on the 110 kit seems to be that people think it sounds clunky and loud. The stage 4 kit has the cnc heads, bumps compression (10.5) and has the 259. The 110 kit, no heads, 10.2 compression and a 585. With these 2 kits, would you see one being better than the other?
I'm also toying with just forgoing the HD stuff and possible doing a FM kit, either 107 or 110 and also looking at the 106-110 offerings from S&S.
My main interest in keeping HD stuff is for warranty purposes. I had an M8 and went back to a still new on the floor FLHTK and with it came a dealer supplied "warranty forever", so that keeps my head spinning HD products.
Currently I'm at a stage 1 with S&S stealth air intake, FM Jackpot 2-1 and their canned powervision map.
I'm also toying with just forgoing the HD stuff and possible doing a FM kit, either 107 or 110 and also looking at the 106-110 offerings from S&S.
My main interest in keeping HD stuff is for warranty purposes. I had an M8 and went back to a still new on the floor FLHTK and with it came a dealer supplied "warranty forever", so that keeps my head spinning HD products.
Currently I'm at a stage 1 with S&S stealth air intake, FM Jackpot 2-1 and their canned powervision map.
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