Vance and Hines x pipe
#2
the V&H power duals ( which has the 'x') is essentially a no cat header similar to the 09 HD stock 49 State header
the cross under pipe has a similar squish to the HD to keep gas velocity high once the rt side is flowing closer to capacity
in terms of performance there could be a minor minor advantage over decatting a stock header- but I don;t think enough to justify the cost
on the twin cam the cover on the X pipe can contact HARD and relieve traction from the rear tire on a rt hand turn where the suspension compresses ( like a dip in the road) and even more likely on a lowered bike.
Mike
the cross under pipe has a similar squish to the HD to keep gas velocity high once the rt side is flowing closer to capacity
in terms of performance there could be a minor minor advantage over decatting a stock header- but I don;t think enough to justify the cost
on the twin cam the cover on the X pipe can contact HARD and relieve traction from the rear tire on a rt hand turn where the suspension compresses ( like a dip in the road) and even more likely on a lowered bike.
Mike
Last edited by mkguitar; 06-04-2017 at 07:42 PM.
#3
I have the V&H Power Duals on my 2012 Road Glide. Like mkguitar said, they are prone to scraping on aggressive right turns. They have been good pipes, but when they finally die, I will probably replace they with the FuelMoto Jackpot.
Instead of stamped sheet metal for the X-Pipe (V&H), the Jackpots use actual pipe for it. They also cant the X-Pipe so that it tucks under the bike and is less prone to dragging.
Just my $0.02 on the subject.
Instead of stamped sheet metal for the X-Pipe (V&H), the Jackpots use actual pipe for it. They also cant the X-Pipe so that it tucks under the bike and is less prone to dragging.
Just my $0.02 on the subject.
#5
I have the V&H Power Duals on my 2012 Road Glide. Like mkguitar said, they are prone to scraping on aggressive right turns. They have been good pipes, but when they finally die, I will probably replace they with the FuelMoto Jackpot.
Instead of stamped sheet metal for the X-Pipe (V&H), the Jackpots use actual pipe for it. They also cant the X-Pipe so that it tucks under the bike and is less prone to dragging.
Just my $0.02 on the subject.
Instead of stamped sheet metal for the X-Pipe (V&H), the Jackpots use actual pipe for it. They also cant the X-Pipe so that it tucks under the bike and is less prone to dragging.
Just my $0.02 on the subject.
#6
the squished crossover on the stock and V&H will be an advantage for most motors.
using a 1.75" pipe would have the gasses flowing fast and aid scavenging
Mike
#7
Hole in the X-Pipe:
Broken pipe:
Don't get me wrong. I've gotten 67K miles of service out of them and they are still going strong. I've just had to do a few repairs to keep them going.
I'm CHEAP! If I can weld it up for just the cost of materials, I'll do that instead of buying new pipes. New pipes are expensive!
I do know that at some point, there will not be enough material left to repair and I will have to replace them, but until then, I'm good with a welder or torch!
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#8
I've been wondering how much performance any 3rd party header has over a gutted M8 stock header. The dealerships around here will gut M8 stock headers for a couple dollars and cover the bike in their warranty. That's important for me, my wife would not ride my stock 09 Ultra because her foot got too hot. I hear the passenger heat off the M8's are worse.
Buy the way, I have the Rinehart header on my 14 Ultra Limited and I really like it. The Rinehart slip ons are a little loud, but the header is nice.
Beary
Buy the way, I have the Rinehart header on my 14 Ultra Limited and I really like it. The Rinehart slip ons are a little loud, but the header is nice.
Beary
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Yes, I forgot. It was the 2012 we rented a Ultra on a trip that turned her against the stock headers. I had traded my 09 Ultra for a 2011 RKC by that time. Age is catching up. First thing she asked about my 2014 Ultra was if it had the cat. When I said no, next question she asked was when could we go for a ride. I'm OK with the performance of the new engines, so honestly the heat is the only reason I even consider a catless header.
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