Not a good choice.
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06-03-2007, 09:07 PM
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RE: Not a good choice.
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this is my first hd,been on metrics all my life.im one a those that always wanted a harley but due to lots of early mistakes and then raisin a bunch of kids,its taken me till now to finally get what i allways wanted,and you know what? im happiern a pig in
$hit ,for all thos that aint , ill be happy for ya!!!!
this is my first hd,been on metrics all my life.im one a those that always wanted a harley but due to lots of early mistakes and then raisin a bunch of kids,its taken me till now to finally get what i allways wanted,and you know what? im happiern a pig in
$hit ,for all thos that aint , ill be happy for ya!!!!
#22
06-03-2007, 09:13 PM
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RE: Not a good choice.
Doug,
Man that is a sharp color. I hadn't seen it before.
To make myself clear, I am not at all complaining. I did do the stage one and it made a big difference. Not nearly as much lugging and plenty of power. I just can't seem to leave well enough alone as I have a D&D Fat Cat and a PC on the way.
Man that is a sharp color. I hadn't seen it before.
To make myself clear, I am not at all complaining. I did do the stage one and it made a big difference. Not nearly as much lugging and plenty of power. I just can't seem to leave well enough alone as I have a D&D Fat Cat and a PC on the way.
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06-03-2007, 09:23 PM
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There are a few in here that I really get a good laugh from ! With talk of lawsuits and such , I have not heard from them lately , maybe they sold there bikes ? I agree some will have to learn the new 6 speed drive train , I can say I really like mine and have zero complaints.
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06-03-2007, 09:34 PM
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I don't give a damn what anybody says, I love my '07 ROADKING.
If someone is having a problem with theirs, I'm sorry for you.
Maybe I'm just lucky or maybe I'm speaking to soon, but I couldn't be more satisfied with my '07.
I got the stage 1 (download and a/c), 1-piece SE slip-ons, and am very happy.
At first I wanted the pipes to be a little louder.
However,they've gotten a little better with the miles and since my 7yr old is now a regular passenger, I'm glad I didn't go too loud for the sake of his hearing.
If someone is having a problem with theirs, I'm sorry for you.
Maybe I'm just lucky or maybe I'm speaking to soon, but I couldn't be more satisfied with my '07.
I got the stage 1 (download and a/c), 1-piece SE slip-ons, and am very happy.
At first I wanted the pipes to be a little louder.
However,they've gotten a little better with the miles and since my 7yr old is now a regular passenger, I'm glad I didn't go too loud for the sake of his hearing.
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06-03-2007, 10:40 PM
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Wow...looks like of new Harley riders on this thread! Me too. I bought my first HD last week, an 07 RKC, vivid black. I love this thing, though I have only managed 345 miles on it so far. I must admit, though, that the power is not overwhelming (don't get me wrong here; that is not a complaint...just an observation). I like SMT's thought:
"HD has to jump through many hoops to even offer a air cooled v-twin and in it's stock form it's lean and hot...no doubt about it. But you as an owner can make it run cool and with lots of usable power but the dealer can only do so much for you because their hands are tied by the feds. "
That's exactly what I want. I'm guessing that I need to consider replacing stock exhaust with SE slip-on's (Rinehart TD's are beautiful, but $) and a stage 1 intake.
I'm hoping that will do it - thoughts? I am not into power at any cost. For me, I just like riding, and I am really happy to be riding a Harley.
"HD has to jump through many hoops to even offer a air cooled v-twin and in it's stock form it's lean and hot...no doubt about it. But you as an owner can make it run cool and with lots of usable power but the dealer can only do so much for you because their hands are tied by the feds. "
That's exactly what I want. I'm guessing that I need to consider replacing stock exhaust with SE slip-on's (Rinehart TD's are beautiful, but $) and a stage 1 intake.
I'm hoping that will do it - thoughts? I am not into power at any cost. For me, I just like riding, and I am really happy to be riding a Harley.
#26
06-03-2007, 10:46 PM
RE: Not a good choice.
ORIGINAL: SMT
So I have been around here for a couple months and noticed something. A lot ofyou (not all) bought 07 FL models as your first bike. Some came off of metric and some came off of Sportsters and God knows what else, but some bought one as their very first HD.I read A LOT of bitching and moaning from owners of the new bikes and even some that don't even own a 07. Even if you have had Harley's in the past you will have to re-learn to ride the 2007 FL's because they are a whole different animal. And maybe it wasn't the best choice for youand you should rethink your decision.
The primary ratio on the 07's is all new and is essentially "over driven". Withan 1:1 6th gear ratio and the other gear ratio changes to the trans and final drive the bike can not be lugged...period. The power band is all new needs to be used in a whole different way. These bikes can not be ridden like the older models unless you change the primary and final drive gear ratios. However this will totally defeat the design of the TC96 torque output.
When I bought my FLHRC in March a I rode it away from the dealer (Santa Barbara)bone *** stock and had to ride 150 miles to my house (Bakersfield)so I had a lot of time to observe and think. I nursed it the first 50 or so miles and then hit I-5 North and opened it up. The first thing I noticed is that bike runs very lean because EPA regs and even leaner cause I'm in CA. Second thing I noticed was that the gear ratios were completely different from my 01 FLHTC/I and I had to adjust my riding style. The third thing I noticed was that the 1:1 6th gear was all but useless at anything under 70 mph, but that's fine because we all drive and ride like maniacs out here anyway so it is a very useful gear for me.
So my point is what you're asking?
My point is this... even if you are old scooter trash like me and have ridden HD's all your life, you will have to re-learn to ride the 07's like I did. You can ride it stock and have many years of great service or you can do like I did and find it's full potential with an A/C, PC III, Rush 2.0 slip ons and Mobil 1 V-twin 20/50 in the crank, primary and Mobil 1 75/140 in the trans. There are many other combinations you can use but this is what works for me. I did all this myself in the first 250 miles and love everything about the bike and have no regrets.
Most of what I read on here is positive but there is a whole lot of negative too. HD has to jump through many hoops to even offer a air cooled v-twin and in it's stock form it's lean and hot...no doubt about it. But you as an owner can make it run cool and with lots of usable power but the dealer can only do so much for you because their hands are tied by the feds.
If you want to lug it around so your loud pipes sound "cool" you will have problems plain and simple, it'll get hot, ping and make an ungodly racket from the gear train. Buy an TC88, Evo, Shovel or even a Pan if you want to do that and you'll be happy.
So I have been around here for a couple months and noticed something. A lot ofyou (not all) bought 07 FL models as your first bike. Some came off of metric and some came off of Sportsters and God knows what else, but some bought one as their very first HD.I read A LOT of bitching and moaning from owners of the new bikes and even some that don't even own a 07. Even if you have had Harley's in the past you will have to re-learn to ride the 2007 FL's because they are a whole different animal. And maybe it wasn't the best choice for youand you should rethink your decision.
The primary ratio on the 07's is all new and is essentially "over driven". Withan 1:1 6th gear ratio and the other gear ratio changes to the trans and final drive the bike can not be lugged...period. The power band is all new needs to be used in a whole different way. These bikes can not be ridden like the older models unless you change the primary and final drive gear ratios. However this will totally defeat the design of the TC96 torque output.
When I bought my FLHRC in March a I rode it away from the dealer (Santa Barbara)bone *** stock and had to ride 150 miles to my house (Bakersfield)so I had a lot of time to observe and think. I nursed it the first 50 or so miles and then hit I-5 North and opened it up. The first thing I noticed is that bike runs very lean because EPA regs and even leaner cause I'm in CA. Second thing I noticed was that the gear ratios were completely different from my 01 FLHTC/I and I had to adjust my riding style. The third thing I noticed was that the 1:1 6th gear was all but useless at anything under 70 mph, but that's fine because we all drive and ride like maniacs out here anyway so it is a very useful gear for me.
So my point is what you're asking?
My point is this... even if you are old scooter trash like me and have ridden HD's all your life, you will have to re-learn to ride the 07's like I did. You can ride it stock and have many years of great service or you can do like I did and find it's full potential with an A/C, PC III, Rush 2.0 slip ons and Mobil 1 V-twin 20/50 in the crank, primary and Mobil 1 75/140 in the trans. There are many other combinations you can use but this is what works for me. I did all this myself in the first 250 miles and love everything about the bike and have no regrets.
Most of what I read on here is positive but there is a whole lot of negative too. HD has to jump through many hoops to even offer a air cooled v-twin and in it's stock form it's lean and hot...no doubt about it. But you as an owner can make it run cool and with lots of usable power but the dealer can only do so much for you because their hands are tied by the feds.
If you want to lug it around so your loud pipes sound "cool" you will have problems plain and simple, it'll get hot, ping and make an ungodly racket from the gear train. Buy an TC88, Evo, Shovel or even a Pan if you want to do that and you'll be happy.
I went on a 200 miler today in 95 degree heat and now I am experiencing the 5th gear noise (turned the stereo down :~) Did the Mobil 1 75/140 in the trans quiet yours down?
Dan
#27
06-03-2007, 11:26 PM
RE: Not a good choice.
Excellent post SMT and I agree with you 100%. I find it interesting the number of people that were happy with their bike until they were told about the "problem". Kinda like telling someone that they look kinda sick(when they don't).....sure enough, they become sick. The powers of suggestion can be amazing sometimes.
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06-03-2007, 11:37 PM
