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lithium ion vs lithium iron. They are not the same thing.

 

But they're not Harleys, so don't count!

 

True.

The slower you go the less air there is for combustion

 

My Dyna LRS has always been kinda hard to crank. I narrowed it down to the battery. Also read on the forums here that others were having similar troubles with batteries. Decided to get a new battery LiFESO4 by Bike Master. Price wasn't bad. Fit is perfect. Performance is awesome. Haven't had it long but it's definitely better. I also got the matching charger and charged it up fully before installing. Great fit, super light. Always cranks doesn't crank immediately, but just hold the the crank button and off we go. So far the mornings have been chilly in 40's. No issues.

-Wag on....

 

A few yrs ago a lrg airline mfg (Boing?) installed latest gen lith batteries in their latest newest airliner and had issue with them overheating & starting on fire in test flights when they were simulating load on them.

They had to go back to the reliable AGM batteries they had used prior to pass safety/beta testing so they could move on with selling their newest model pass jet.

I had lith batteries ignite/start on fire 3x in the Lenovo laptop my employer supplied to me though thats diff type lith tech.

The lith bike batteries have yet to prove the can consistently last 5.5-6+ yrs or longer like a quality Yuasa AGM battery has proven to do for yrs now.

My friends bike has a Deka agm i installed in his bike 9/2009 that will be a full 8yrs old 9/17 that as of the other still started his 103cid v-twin i srvc'd for him just fine.

And AGM (Absorbant Glass Matt) batteries by design use considerably less acid thats soaked up by the plates so they dont require adding dist water at times & don't leak acid like older gen lead acid batteries used to do by posts and out of caps/vents @ times too.

They also dont have as much loss of charge/battery voltage over time as older gen std lead acid batteries do too so require less charge .

Yuasa's latest gen GYZ32HL maint free fact act AGM battery is rated @ 500cc's /32AH's that i got for $132 to my door being roughtly 50% less money for a battery that may very well last longer then the avg lith bike battery.

And guess what,the 11.0 compression big block 402 cid chevy V8 motor in my 69 chevelle ss was rated from factory in 69 when new to require a 500cca battery so this 500cca bike battery will start just about any HD modded HD motor within reason as long as starter is up to the task too.

And get this,Fast Series muscle car drag racers running stroked big block motor up to 540-555cid use a reproduction Delco R%( type battery case with a lighter motorcycle AGM battery inside it so save wt which has no problem starting 500+ CID hi comp motors with a 450-500CCA AGM bike battery like i have in my 69 w-bbc motor.

I bought one of those fast series repop Delco R59 batteries with an AGM bike battery inside of it for my 69 approx 6.5-7yrs ago & it's still going strong with NP firing up my 11.0 comp 402cid BBC motor cold or hot.

BTW,I tested CCA'S of Yuasa's GYZ32HL that rated @ 500cca's when i 1st got it and it tested at approx 625CCA's,but that was at 65-70 deg and normally true CCA test should be performed @ " 0 " deg f and CA's is tested @ " 32 " deg f so thats why CCA tested higher then spec due to being tested in 65-70deg f warmer temp.

Bottom line is with the high quality hi CCA power todays reliable 500cca GYZ32HL Yuasa (Or Litghtning Start's AGM rated @ 600CCA's) AGM batteries provide at half the cost or less of a lith battery that at times may have cold temp perf issues until lith bike batteries that cost 2x+ more money prove they can reliably last as long or longer then a Lith bike battery isn't felt or noticed perf wise when you hit the throttle not doing squat other then unloading your wallet of 2x more money then need be for a battery i'd not buy or rec a lith bike either.

But i have to admit i see a need for Lith batteries in custom builds or racing apps for motorcycle or cars with limited space and reduced wt requirements which is a totally diff story where Lith battery can be useful.

Scott

 

Lithium batteries are better than lead, Have one in a Honda love it!

 

Been using EarthX in the old Evo about 4 years now.

http://earthxbatteries.com/

 

I don't see a problem here.

The battery explodes, bike burns up, you get a new bike, no prob!!!

 

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Just the other night i spent a few hrs watching youtube phone videos of guys that had Lithium batteries from mult dif mfg's actually start on fire, melt down & smoke with no viseable fire or just plain fail prematurely and it was more then just 1 or 2,many more then that.

But i didnt see any of the failed lithium bike batteries i saw on multiple youtube videos actually explode though i read that has happened i didnt see it.

I was surprised to see just how many issues there are out there with lith bike batteries on youtube failing in front of my eyes.

Then take a look to see how many quality agm bike batteries are shown starting on fire ,melting down or failing prematurely on youtube from mfg's like for example Deka (ETX30L) & Yuasa (GYZ32HL),bet you won't find near as many issues quality AGM bike batteries.

And todays AGM bike batteries have up to 500-600CCA's (Yuasa & Lightningstart by powersource) these days which more then enough/plenty of CCA power to start any stock to fairly hot modded higher compression HD as long as the starter isnt tired or worn not being up to the job or installing a high trq starter for higher compression apps.

And i would bet that's an issue in some cases where guys are having starting issues with higher 500-600CCA output batteries esp with higher compression motors.

Bottom line is you cant go wrong with a deka etx30l/400cca battery for $98 to you door from hightech battery online or Yuasa GYZ32HL 500cca battery for $132 from Phatperf online which is where i bought that battery for my 09 FLHTCU a yr ago vs spending 2x-3x more for a lith bike battery that may not last any longer then a quality agm let alone be as reliable as a quality AGM bike battery is too because they are just not there yet no matter the lith bike battery mfg's tell you.

Scott