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Old 09-13-2016 | 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by soft 02
Wonder what % is lost between the crank and wheel?
I'd say 15 percent is a close starting point.
 
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Old 09-13-2016 | 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Heatwave
Do you know what the gms/sec are for the stock M8 114 injectors? And does the 107 have the same injectors as the 114? Is the stock M8 TB a 58mm or a 55mm? I've seen both sizes referenced.
55MM. gm/sec @ 4.384 - Only injector made for the new platform that I know of

55 MM throttle body.
 
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Old 09-13-2016 | 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by fuelmoto
Here's an initial review on the 2017 Milwaukee Eight 107" Road Glide by Bob M. one of Fuel Moto's product specialists:
"I am really impressed with the 2017 Touring bikes overall. I will say the thing I like the best is new valving of the front forks. The upgrade really keeps the front end planted and it can handle big bumps better than the earlier bikes. The new Milwaukee 8 motor is a nice improvement as well. It is a very smooth platform with the addition of the counter balancer. The motor does sound different than the Twin Cam and I am not talking about exhaust note. I hear what I feel is the gear driven counter balancer. I do have to admit; I was not a fan of the sound of a gear drive cam in a Harley or an Oldsmobile. Torque delivery is very nice, very smooth and I do feel it is an improvement over the Twin Cam stock vs stock. I rode our 2017 Road Glide stock and with a prototype muffler upgrade and the improvement is about the same as one would get from the same upgrade on the Twin Cam. In the end, I cannot wait to see what potential we can bring out of this new platform." Bob M.



Bob has been with us for only 2 years, however he has extensive experience in our industry working/managing H-D dealers for a couple decades, he has nearly unsurpassed knowledge on the H-D motorcycle and has several hundred thousand miles of seat time on H-D bikes as well.
I am super picky about my bike. Wife calls me "obsessive". There is only one tech at my dealer that is allowed to work on my bike or to even roll my bike out to the lot. Yes, my dealer is very nice and tolerates me. But that dude in the picture looks like someone I would trust to do work on my bike without a doubt. Keep it up FuelMoto!
 
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Old 09-13-2016 | 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by cdonis
I'd say 15 percent is a close starting point.
From the Dyno charts I have seen (and I am no expert) the delta between crank and wheel based on Harley data ranges between 9% and 11% pretty consistently. FuelMoto will know for sure.
 
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Old 09-13-2016 | 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Wide Open Cycles
55MM. gm/sec @ 4.384 - Only injector made for the new platform that I know of

55 MM throttle body.
Seems like they really held the 114 engine back from its real potential. Those injectors seem rather small for 114ci. I think the 110 engine has 4.8gm/sec injectors so they definitely choked down the fuel delivery, I presume to meet the EPA standards. I'm currently running a 58mm TB and 5.3gms/sec injectors on a 110ci engine. I can only imagine the power that this 114ci engine COULD generate with these 4 valve heads but with better air flow (larger TB) and more fuel (larger injectors). It's going to be fun watching as "real" performance packages are developed for these new engines.

The first guy putting together a "bolt-on" 114 performance package with exhaust, TB, cam and injectors with a tuned map that generates 130+/130+ is going to have very popular (and profitable) package.
 

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Old 09-13-2016 | 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by fuelmoto
We are currently using pre-production mufflers (unfinished), once we have finished components we will surely do some videos and compare them to stock and several other brands on both the stock and Jackpot head pipes.
That will be interesting. I did the standard stage one on my 2015 with a dealer tune. They do not have a Dyno so I knew it would not be perfect, and I am assuming they kept it within EPA guidelines. My local Indie who does have a Dyno and is known for his ability to tune well took my bike for a spin and said it was pretty good. Probably not worth the money to have him tune it. I am pretty sure we will be able to do the standard stage one with a tune and everyone will be supper happy with the exhaust note and pull the bike will have. Of course I have no interest in smoking my back tire....
 

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Old 09-13-2016 | 07:03 PM
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more interested in 107 performance myself, personally.

intake, full exhaust and cam upgrade with a good PC-V autotune setup

The above on my TC 103 netted 90 horse and 110 torque. PLENTY of juice when touring, for me.

the 4 valve should be stronger than that.

Joe
 
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Old 09-13-2016 | 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by fuelmoto
We already have base calibrations developed for several combinations
So post up the dyno sheets for the several combinations that you have developed.

I'm going to get back on the pipe before it cools off. The rest of you fellows get back to the FM love fest.
 
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Old 09-14-2016 | 02:53 AM
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Originally Posted by oleboy
So post up the dyno sheets for the several combinations that you have developed.

I'm going to get back on the pipe before it cools off. The rest of you fellows get back to the FM love fest.
There's one in every bunch.
 
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Old 09-14-2016 | 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Glyder54
There's one in every bunch.
Unfortunately. He's already on my ignore list
 


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