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Old 08-06-2016 | 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by GooseGRMC
A skilled rider on a stock bike can usually outperform a modded bike with a not so skilled rider.
Yeah, but no matter how skilled you are it doesn't compensate for your right foot spontaneously combusting in traffic from the cat. Which...by the way was the to
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Old 08-06-2016 | 10:42 AM
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Why do you all think that cop miles are any harder than regular miles? I would argue that they may be easier miles.
If you rode a bike, leap-frogging a long motorcade, to keep traffic shut down along the route, you'd know what I mean by hard miles..... much more like "racing" miles than "regular" miles... few regular riders will ride their bikes like this.

Throw in a few pursuits and responding to cover calls... Cop bikes can have very hard miles on them....

Obviously the length of service and the jurisdiction will affect it's service history... In SoCal most bikes are put through the wringer....
 
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Old 08-06-2016 | 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by ev780
Why do you all think that cop miles are any harder than regular miles? I would argue that they may be easier miles. The bike is started at the beginning of the shift, brought up to temp and kept hot/lubricated all day. Whereas a garage queen has a lot more heat cycles.

I will admit that they idle a bit too much and parade duty is brutal on them. But patrol miles are just miles.
Had a conversation with a cop not that long ago about the police motorcycles. He said he would never buy a used police motorcycle. He said they really beat them up. They idle for long periods of time then gun full throttle jumping off curbs, shut down fast and restarted and repeated.
 
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Old 08-06-2016 | 03:51 PM
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Great thread, very informative.
 
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Old 08-07-2016 | 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by hattitude
If you rode a bike, leap-frogging a long motorcade, to keep traffic shut down along the route, you'd know what I mean by hard miles..... much more like "racing" miles than "regular" miles... few regular riders will ride their bikes like this.

Throw in a few pursuits and responding to cover calls... Cop bikes can have very hard miles on them....

Obviously the length of service and the jurisdiction will affect it's service history... In SoCal most bikes are put through the wringer....
I guess more stop and go than I thought through. Kinda like city traffic all the time. I ride mine hard on the road. Long sustained, over 90, hot weather runs all the time. But they are long and I use a proper cool down.

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Had a conversation with a cop not that long ago about the police motorcycles. He said he would never buy a used police motorcycle. He said they really beat them up. They idle for long periods of time then gun full throttle jumping off curbs, shut down fast and restarted and repeated.
I suspect the long idling to keep lights and radios up is the worst.
 
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Old 08-07-2016 | 06:20 PM
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I have seen a few. Rare, but they're out there.
 
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Old 08-07-2016 | 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by slowrollin
Anyone ever seen a COP bike, that's in service, with a stage 1 or decatted head pipe?

I know it sounds like a crazy question, but as I ponder the question of stock vs not stock, and listen to all of the opinions for why people do a stage 1 or remove the catalytic converter, I wonder if police departments do that. They ride those bikes all day, in traffic, blistering heat, etc... Every COP bike I've seen in the service department at the dealer I use seems to be bone stock. Kind of doesn't make sense to me when they ride much more and much harder than most guys.
Why should the police bikes be exempt from the same rules and regulations as the next guy?

California Police bikes with no EPA standards and the others having to abide by the EPA ?

Not sure exactly, but back in the 80's the Vancouver PD had their bikes running around with no baffles to keep them running cooler and some thought the added 2 hp was worth the effort having them removed for day to day duty.

then a few guys got nicked for running around with no baffles and cited the VD and their duty bikes with no baffles.

Thanks to BCOMM going to court on behalf of ticketed riders had their tickets tossed and VPD was no longer having the baffles removed from the duty bikes..whats good for the goose is good for the gander.

Obviously, each geographical area will have different rules for different folks and the LEO Agencies as well.

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Old 08-07-2016 | 08:52 PM
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I dunno, guys.

Myself and quite a few guys I ride with beat the **** outta our bikes. I'm talking very hard, WOT acceleration, many times per day. Seriously, flat out.

Our bikes are all in the 30k-100k range and other than the odd tensioner, and broken drive belts(probably due to the frequent hard pulls) none of us have experienced any sort of problem with our bikes. We always just make sure they're well lubricated and serviced on time. That's it.

I think these bikes are designed to take a lot more abuse than most of you guys give them credit for.
 
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Old 08-09-2016 | 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by CndUltra95
Why should the police bikes be exempt from the same rules and regulations as the next guy?

California Police bikes with no EPA standards and the others having to abide by the EPA ?
I have no problem at all with the cops and their cars/bikes being exempt from all smog and detuned regulations. Lots of cops who have their cars assigned to them have performance tuners on them too. I'm ok with that. I want them to be able to chase down Billy Dirtbag with ease.
 
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Old 08-09-2016 | 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Eyeball Kid
Ride?

90% of the time I see a bike cop sitting behind a building, or alleyway ready to extort $$ from common folk.
It's not extortion if you're guilty. Just punishment. The cops in Wisconsin are pretty lenient. In most jurisdictions you have to be about 15 over to get a ticket.
 


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