Possible Brake-Failure 08 to 11 Harley
#11
For all the vehicles that I have owned none of them required me to replace the brake fluid. Why is HD ABS so sensitive to the brake fluid.
Oh and yes I have replaced my brake fluid in my Electra Glide. I'm not saying don't, I'm saying I have never heard of other brakes failing with old brake fluid. I hear the valves and other delicate parts in the ABS lock up.
Oh and yes I have replaced my brake fluid in my Electra Glide. I'm not saying don't, I'm saying I have never heard of other brakes failing with old brake fluid. I hear the valves and other delicate parts in the ABS lock up.
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#12
Another thing I've heard is that "you should never change the brake fluid yourself. Have a dealer do it for you. It's too complicated." I think I've heard that on this site. That's ridiculous. After hearing that I carefully read the manual. It's just like bleeding the brakes on any other vehicle. Nothing special. I use a vacuum pump but it's not necessary. Just make sure you never run out of fluid in the reservoir. Keep it topped off as you bleed. And if you do suck air into the system it's not the end of the world. Just start over and keep bleeding until all the air passes through the system. It really is just like bleeding any other brake system.
#13
Cause they use cheap ****, made in china components made from cheap **** made in china steel instead of stainless components that would not be so susceptible to corrosion.
Have you ever seen a car that had a maintenance requirement of flushing all the brake fluid every 2 years??
Have you ever seen a car that had a maintenance requirement of flushing all the brake fluid every 2 years??
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Originally Posted by s76helipilot View Post
Cause they use cheap ****, made in china components made from cheap **** made in china steel instead of stainless components that would not be so susceptible to corrosion.
Have you ever seen a car that had a maintenance requirement of flushing all the brake fluid every 2 years??
HYGROSCOPIC ...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hygroscopy
Cause they use cheap ****, made in china components made from cheap **** made in china steel instead of stainless components that would not be so susceptible to corrosion.
Have you ever seen a car that had a maintenance requirement of flushing all the brake fluid every 2 years??
HYGROSCOPIC ...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hygroscopy
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The problem is the DOT 5 fluid Harley used to put in the bikes (my '03 uses DOT5), doesn't play well with ABS. So they had to switch to DOT 4 (my '12 Limited uses DOT4)....
DOT 5 (silicone based) is not hygroscopic, but DOT 3, 4, and 5.1 (glycol based) are hygroscopic......
So I guess I see why they want you to change the brake fluid, but it has to be because something in the ABS system is really super sensitive to corrosion...
I've owned about a dozen cars & trucks that have used DOT 4 brake fluid. I never changed the brake fluid, nor did I ever have a brake failure...
DOT 5 (silicone based) is not hygroscopic, but DOT 3, 4, and 5.1 (glycol based) are hygroscopic......
So I guess I see why they want you to change the brake fluid, but it has to be because something in the ABS system is really super sensitive to corrosion...
I've owned about a dozen cars & trucks that have used DOT 4 brake fluid. I never changed the brake fluid, nor did I ever have a brake failure...
#20
The problem is the DOT 5 fluid Harley used to put in the bikes (my '03 uses DOT5), doesn't play well with ABS. So they had to switch to DOT 4 (my '12 Limited uses DOT4)....
DOT 5 (silicone based) is not hygroscopic, but DOT 3, 4, and 5.1 (glycol based) are hygroscopic......
So I guess I see why they want you to change the brake fluid, but it has to be because something in the ABS system is really super sensitive to corrosion...
I've owned about a dozen cars & trucks that have used DOT 4 brake fluid. I never changed the brake fluid, nor did I ever have a brake failure...
DOT 5 (silicone based) is not hygroscopic, but DOT 3, 4, and 5.1 (glycol based) are hygroscopic......
So I guess I see why they want you to change the brake fluid, but it has to be because something in the ABS system is really super sensitive to corrosion...
I've owned about a dozen cars & trucks that have used DOT 4 brake fluid. I never changed the brake fluid, nor did I ever have a brake failure...