Possible Brake-Failure 08 to 11 Harley
#141
Thought that was my imagination. Have a couple of intersections with "washboard" like run-ups where this routinely happens.
#142
Are you referring to the situation where one hits a patch of bumpy pavement say just prior to an intersection and you feel the brakes release?
Thought that was my imagination. Have a couple of intersections with "washboard" like run-ups where this routinely happens.
Thought that was my imagination. Have a couple of intersections with "washboard" like run-ups where this routinely happens.
Beary
#143
Are you referring to the situation where one hits a patch of bumpy pavement say just prior to an intersection and you feel the brakes release?
Thought that was my imagination. Have a couple of intersections with "washboard" like run-ups where this routinely happens.
Thought that was my imagination. Have a couple of intersections with "washboard" like run-ups where this routinely happens.
#144
#145
Are you referring to the situation where one hits a patch of bumpy pavement say just prior to an intersection and you feel the brakes release?
Thought that was my imagination. Have a couple of intersections with "washboard" like run-ups where this routinely happens.
Thought that was my imagination. Have a couple of intersections with "washboard" like run-ups where this routinely happens.
#146
Are you referring to the situation where one hits a patch of bumpy pavement say just prior to an intersection and you feel the brakes release?
Thought that was my imagination. Have a couple of intersections with "washboard" like run-ups where this routinely happens.
Thought that was my imagination. Have a couple of intersections with "washboard" like run-ups where this routinely happens.
Ride smarter, keep up on your maintenance, remember that only a few have experienced this "issue" and many have not. For those of you that have had issues? I feel for you. But even the NTSB states they have received 43 complaints and very few injuries. Show me any vehicle with a perfect safety record.... 2 or 4 wheels. Does anyone remember the Volvo acceleration issue? Seriously.
#147
"Ride smarter, keep up on your maintenance, remember that only a few have experienced this "issue" and many have not"
That is an infuriating comment. 1. When touring (on a touring machine) pretty well by definition you are in an unfamiliar area meaning you can't pre-plan for the rough spots, they catch you by surprise.
2. Not owning an ABS equipped machine, I don't know what information is provided to a first time owner, but I doubt that anywhere in the owner's manual is the warning that rough pavement may cause your ABS to cause total brake failure. You can't outsmart a weak point you don't KNOW about.
If I told someone to "ride smarter", it would be to develop the skills you need to stay alive and don't waste your money on electronic doohickies with hidden defects that can kill you. If your machine won't go, that's bad. but if it WON'T STOP, that's a lot worse. Take responsibility, don't become DEPENDENT on technology.
That is an infuriating comment. 1. When touring (on a touring machine) pretty well by definition you are in an unfamiliar area meaning you can't pre-plan for the rough spots, they catch you by surprise.
2. Not owning an ABS equipped machine, I don't know what information is provided to a first time owner, but I doubt that anywhere in the owner's manual is the warning that rough pavement may cause your ABS to cause total brake failure. You can't outsmart a weak point you don't KNOW about.
If I told someone to "ride smarter", it would be to develop the skills you need to stay alive and don't waste your money on electronic doohickies with hidden defects that can kill you. If your machine won't go, that's bad. but if it WON'T STOP, that's a lot worse. Take responsibility, don't become DEPENDENT on technology.
Last edited by btsom; 08-10-2016 at 08:48 AM.
#148
"Ride smarter, keep up on your maintenance, remember that only a few have experienced this "issue" and many have not"
That is an infuriating comment. 1. When touring (on a touring machine) pretty well by definition you are in an unfamiliar area meaning you can't pre-plan for the rough spots, they catch you by surprise.
2. Not owning an ABS equipped machine, I don't know what information is provided to a first time owner, but I doubt that anywhere in the owner's manual is the warning that rough pavement may cause your ABS to cause total brake failure. You can't outsmart a weak point you don't KNOW about.
If I told someone to "ride smarter", it would be to develop the skills you need to stay alive and don't waste your money on electronic doohickies with hidden defects that can kill you. If your machine won't go, that's bad. but if it WON'T STOP, that's a lot worse. Take responsibility, don't become DEPENDENT on technology.
That is an infuriating comment. 1. When touring (on a touring machine) pretty well by definition you are in an unfamiliar area meaning you can't pre-plan for the rough spots, they catch you by surprise.
2. Not owning an ABS equipped machine, I don't know what information is provided to a first time owner, but I doubt that anywhere in the owner's manual is the warning that rough pavement may cause your ABS to cause total brake failure. You can't outsmart a weak point you don't KNOW about.
If I told someone to "ride smarter", it would be to develop the skills you need to stay alive and don't waste your money on electronic doohickies with hidden defects that can kill you. If your machine won't go, that's bad. but if it WON'T STOP, that's a lot worse. Take responsibility, don't become DEPENDENT on technology.
#149
[QUOTE=Hate Work;15401417]Loquacious, aren't we. You didn't say anything different,
I merely addressed what I am confident was your heart felt suggestion (to ride smarter) but was impossible to actually use, and illustrated why. If you could have done so in fewer words, I am willing to learn.
I merely addressed what I am confident was your heart felt suggestion (to ride smarter) but was impossible to actually use, and illustrated why. If you could have done so in fewer words, I am willing to learn.
#150
The issue folks are complaining about with "todays" ABS is a problem on most motorcycles and cars. It's less noticeable on cars because the suspension is more forgiving with four wheels and more weight on a more balance suspension. But most BMWs, Yamahas, and Kawasaki's riders have the exact the same situation with their ABS. It's a simple matter of keeping both wheels on the ground at the same time.
Some here make such a big deal of the situation that they would consider choosing to not have ABS. I come from the non ABS world and have made unexpected "spirited" stops with and without the system. Using the brakes correctly in sudden emergency stops requires a lot of practice all the time because it's a perishable skill. Given a choice, I really like my ABS.
Beary
Some here make such a big deal of the situation that they would consider choosing to not have ABS. I come from the non ABS world and have made unexpected "spirited" stops with and without the system. Using the brakes correctly in sudden emergency stops requires a lot of practice all the time because it's a perishable skill. Given a choice, I really like my ABS.
Beary