Originally Posted by NAILIT RK

You guys talking about Ohlins #2, 2+2, or 2.5, I don't see that correlation on their website
* Year Part # Type MSRP Length Stroke Image
FLH/FLT*** 1998-2012 HD 159 S36DR1L $ 955 13 +-1/8 3
FLH/FLT*** 1998-2012 HD 022 S36E $ 648 13 3 ¼
FLH/FLT*** 1998-2012 HD 357 S36HR1C1L $ 1,574

This is what I see.

Originally Posted by Streetrunner

I ride solo most of the time and I wouldn't classify myself as an aggressive rider although I will bring it up to 80 on the highway and lean into a few turns but overall I like to cruise and enjoy the ride and the scenery.
My first pair was Pro Action. Can't say enough about George the owner and developer, great guy and outstanding service. The shocks were made well but the were entirely too stiff for me. We tried many different settings, none to my liking. George practically bent over backwards but in the end was gracious enough to refund my money.
Next set was Super shocks. Again I worked with the manufacturer trying to find the sweet spot but it didn't exist for me. Super shocks is a much simpler set up than Pro-Action. They don't offer any dampening and rebound adjustments. I also found them to be too harsh. I was refunded again.
At this point my 13" air shocks were out performing both the Pro action and Super Shocks on most surfaces as far as a plusher ride goes.
In NJ there are many potholes, the back roads are pretty rough so I had a lot of area to test these shocks.
One thing I will say is that the Pro-Actions did make the bike handle better but the trade off of the harsh ride wasn't worth it.
Lastly I tried Legend Revo-A's. I still have them on the bike and I'm still looking for that elusive sweet-spot. I have also dealt with the guys at Legend seeking their advice. All of the shocks mentioned were in the $700 to $800 range so when I look at what I've tried so far and weigh the expense with the result I can say, for me, it wasn't worth what I paid when I compare the difference between the shocks that came with the bike and the other 3 brands. For me, they were not worth 7-8 hundred more than stock.
I have never tried Ohlin's but at this point I have the distinct feeling I will wind up with the same result.
I am going to keep the Revo's and just ride without trying to analyze every bump hoping that in time I will accept the ride as normal and enjoy. That's what it's all about. I love being in the wind!

Originally Posted by scottt

Harley Davidson FL suspension has no real connection to race bikes, in my opinion. I'm sure suspension companies learn from racing but different deals. The ride and handling desired on my 14 TK has very little in common with any superbike. For some reason, it seems like some Ohlin suspension owners feel it's Ohlin or nothing. I respect there opinion and can see that is the case for them; It's not the case for everyone, that does not make either wrong. All that matters is that the owner of the bike likes what they have or plan on installing, neither is wrong.

Many have taken shots at me for posting information about Legend Suspension. Howard actually got pissed because I questioned if Ohlin was actually the very best, said he won't ever sell me a Ohlin product. Guess I will have to sell my bike and stop riding? My point is that there are many good products out there, Ohlin is just one of them. For those of us that prefer an American product with different attributes we also have choices, and that does not make any of them bad. The more the information the better, wish there was a third party suspension testing available. While I Love my Legend setup my punch list might have been different than the Ohlin buyer. Again, neither is wrong. If someone is happy with stock, good for them. If someone is happy with Progressive, good for them. I enjoy reading owner reviews and manufacture data when researching a product. When someone claims they have the very best or puts another product down my antenna goes up. Based on what and who? I have never claimed Legend was the best because I simply don't know. I just know how much I like it.

NOT trying to **** anyone off, if I have, I'm really sorry. Don't wish to offend.

Originally Posted by scottt

Originally Posted by scottt
No offense but, just because a gentleman from Ohlin says there mounting system is the best does not make it so for all brands. I take exception to making it sound like anything Ohlin does is always the best way and all other brands are second or third rate. It may be the best for there shocks and it might be the best in some peoples opinion, I respect that. The brands that use spherical bearings state that they are doing it best, I never buy that claim either. It's all about the overall package, how it rides and handles and the warranty should anything go bad. There is a long list of components that go into the buying decision process, easy installation with spherical bearings is just one of them. Ohlin is a great suspension product from what others say but so are some other brands.

Originally Posted by scottt

Have no desire to get into any pissing match, and agree that Howard knows more about suspension than I do. What is at issue is that Howard takes everything personal when someone post support for other products. As he said, he is a sponsor and I guess that means to him that other products should not be brought to light because as he said they may be " one who does not pay".

This is what Howard posted " Now please do not think I am offending you as I want nothing to do with you and never have." I would assume nothing means nothing, no business as I suggested. You have absolutely no worries about this, would not put your products on my bike for free. Not because the product is bad.

I will only post legitimate reviews and important information regarding products I have used. Nothing I post is meant to be personal. I do wonder why someone gets so upset when they have such a great product, competition should not be a issue.

Originally Posted by Durango Dave

Preload adjustment is overrated. Reading this thread I realize people don't understand this setting. Adjusting the preload does not make your suspension more firm or soft. Preload is set by screwing one end of the spring mount to change the compression of the spring, raising or lowering your cycle. The object is to to have 25% to 30% of the spring suspension compressed when you are sitting still. This way if you hit a bump or bottom of a dip you have 70% to 75% of your suspension to compress before your suspension bottoms out. Likewise if you crest a hill you will have 25% to 30% of your suspension to extend before it tops out. If your preload is not set properly you will not notice any handling or ride differences EXCEPT that your suspension will bottom out or top out too easily.

Preload does not change the spring rate of the suspension.

Compression dampening and rebound dampening are much more important to your ride quality and handling.

Originally Posted by NAILIT RK

You guys talking about Ohlins #2, 2+2, or 2.5, I don't see that correlation on their website
* Year Part # Type MSRP Length Stroke Image
FLH/FLT*** 1998-2012 HD 159 S36DR1L $ 955 13 +-1/8 3
FLH/FLT*** 1998-2012 HD 022 S36E $ 648 13 3 ¼
FLH/FLT*** 1998-2012 HD 357 S36HR1C1L $ 1,574

This is what I see. Maybe this is an old website as they only list up to 2012 Ok never mind, I see those numbers come from Motorcycle Metal identifying the different variations

Originally Posted by mongomark

As I mentioned in one of my posts, I had the 12" shorty air shocks first then went to the Works Steel Tracker shocks. The Works sold to me at the time (around 2009) had 2 choices for springs. Normal and Heavy Duty. My weight at the time was around 250. I went with the Heavy Duty. After learning more about the benefit of proper sag adjustment, they were significantly better than the shorty stock shocks.

Originally Posted by Durango Dave

... Adjusting the preload does not make your suspension more firm or soft.

Preload does not change the spring rate of the suspension.