Baker Compensator is Installed!!
#22
I installed mine a couple weeks ago and so far so good after a little over 300 miles. You may already have looked at these things, but this would be what I would check.
1. Alignment of the comp with the clutch. You might need to shim it.
2. The metal webbing on the interior side of the primary cover. The instructions say some models will need to remove the metal with a die grinder for clearance of the comp. My 2009 did not require this, but newer models do. Not sure what year they added that extra material.
3. I hope you didn't pay $499 for it.
I use Dexron transmission fluid in mine. That is what Rivera Primo requires for the clutch.
1. Alignment of the comp with the clutch. You might need to shim it.
2. The metal webbing on the interior side of the primary cover. The instructions say some models will need to remove the metal with a die grinder for clearance of the comp. My 2009 did not require this, but newer models do. Not sure what year they added that extra material.
3. I hope you didn't pay $499 for it.
I use Dexron transmission fluid in mine. That is what Rivera Primo requires for the clutch.
#25
What has it been now since Baker released their latest model of the compensator, 8-10 months? I have not heard any reports of how it is doing. Given the price, they may not be selling many units. It will take at least a year or so before anybody knows if it will have any problems. After 20,000 miles or so somebody will tear one down and see what is wearing. Or not.
I guess at this stage the jury is still out on whether or not the Baker unit does what all the others have not been able to do; and that is show significant signs of wear due to lack of lubrication.
I guess at this stage the jury is still out on whether or not the Baker unit does what all the others have not been able to do; and that is show significant signs of wear due to lack of lubrication.
#26
Baker comp has been removed. Lots of noise from primary. Lots of metal shavings in fluid. I
thought I had purchased latest revision of this comp. apparently they shipped us a "shelf" version knowing it needed an updated spring. I waited 4 weeks for an older version?? That don't make sense!!!
Not going to wait for updated spring. I'll just have to monitor the latest SE version installed and hope Harley or someone else comes up with a better fix.
Maybe eliminating the comp altogether might be a better solution..... Thoughts?
thought I had purchased latest revision of this comp. apparently they shipped us a "shelf" version knowing it needed an updated spring. I waited 4 weeks for an older version?? That don't make sense!!!
Not going to wait for updated spring. I'll just have to monitor the latest SE version installed and hope Harley or someone else comes up with a better fix.
Maybe eliminating the comp altogether might be a better solution..... Thoughts?
#28
GEESH,Give the guy a break!/LOL!!!
It's only been approx 3hrs since the initial thread was posted & i dont think Mark should be expected to monitor HDForums 24/7.
Just say'n.
Happy Motoring.
Scott
#29
Sorry to hear you got a bad spring pack, they were not all bad but enough of them that we had to change spring manufactures and we are now assembling the cups in house. If you would like to return it for an updated version we will replace it free of charge.
#30
I'm not going with the compensaver because I'm thinking this time next year I'll be swapping back out for a Baker again, and they don't work with the Baker.
I guess the next question would be (and I would hate opening up this can of worms), but what type of fluid would be best suited for metal-to-metal wear for the time being?
I currently run Drag Specialties Primary Oil, and have run Mobil 1 in all three holes in previous bikes. They recommend HD Primary Fluid, but isn't that burning up red in previous failed comp issues?
I guess the next question would be (and I would hate opening up this can of worms), but what type of fluid would be best suited for metal-to-metal wear for the time being?
I currently run Drag Specialties Primary Oil, and have run Mobil 1 in all three holes in previous bikes. They recommend HD Primary Fluid, but isn't that burning up red in previous failed comp issues?
Roiadking,here's what i have been running in prim (specifically formulated for HD prim) since installing the new SE-Comp & Compensaver oiling tray now having 8,400miles on it with great results thus far.
I'd like to run just ATF because its allow clutch plates to release better them std prim oil that heavier visc reducing or stopping the dreaded clunk when shifting ,but other then the clunk trans always shifts easy and neutral is also never a problem to find either.
But i dont fully trust the much lighter viscosity of atf to properly/fully protect the comp & IPB in the long run (60-70-100k+ miles) from the hvy trq load that a 85w visc prim oil can better handle vs very thin atf.
I was thinking of trying a mix of 30/70 mix or 50/50 ratio mix of atf/85w prim oil to thin out the overall visc of the 85w prim oil to see that would significantly reduce and or stop the clunk when shifting.
If that worked my thinking is that maybe that mix of thin atf & hvy 85w prim oil might maintain a higher visc someplace between the what,10w-15w of atf & the 85w of the prim oil i a using to stand up better to the trq & abuse the compensator & IPB etc all take in primary.
Lastly,the motor oil i run in my stock 96" motor (at bottom of this post) maintains significantly better oil pressure hot @ idle & at cruise then m1 v-twin and syn3 20-50 full syn oil ever did in my bike .
Scott
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Last edited by wscott; 11-24-2015 at 01:40 PM.