Oil cooler fans
#21
RE: Oil cooler fans
There is a big bug in this project, and I should've taken the bike out for a test ride before posting the original message. Mounting fans in front of the Premium Cooler is a bad idea, and after a ride this afternoon I figured out why. The fender-to-fan clearance is at least 1" when the bike is still. It doesn't stay still, though, and as the forks compress the fender moves up and to the rear at the same angle the forks are oriented. By the time you brake or otherwise compress the forks even moderately, the gap closes dramatically, and the clearance you have sitting still is gone.
Watching this in action, I would say it would be a mistake putting anything more than 1" in front of the cooler, and that might even be too much. If you do, you should artificially compress the forks all the way and check clearance before riding! Most 80mm computer fans are 25mm deep.
Now, all this said, I have yet another hairbrained idea. Mount a second oil cooler like a Jagg on the downtubes and connect it to the original cooler in series. This would be simple, taking minutes (in theory). Then you wouldn't have clearance problems and fans could be installed without problems. Of course, it would look even more **** than my project, conspicuously hanging out on the left side, but would assuredly get lots of questions and glances, admiring and otherwise, I'm sure. Then there's the problem of the wires running along the downtubes, which would be hard to hide. It would look like overkill, I think, and some would say the whole idea of oil-cooler fans is such.
Watching this in action, I would say it would be a mistake putting anything more than 1" in front of the cooler, and that might even be too much. If you do, you should artificially compress the forks all the way and check clearance before riding! Most 80mm computer fans are 25mm deep.
Now, all this said, I have yet another hairbrained idea. Mount a second oil cooler like a Jagg on the downtubes and connect it to the original cooler in series. This would be simple, taking minutes (in theory). Then you wouldn't have clearance problems and fans could be installed without problems. Of course, it would look even more **** than my project, conspicuously hanging out on the left side, but would assuredly get lots of questions and glances, admiring and otherwise, I'm sure. Then there's the problem of the wires running along the downtubes, which would be hard to hide. It would look like overkill, I think, and some would say the whole idea of oil-cooler fans is such.
#22
RE: Oil cooler fans
ORIGINAL: Ram
Happy hunting with the fans, this is the same project that I've had in mind for quite sometime. I've got a fan from some water cooled moto-cross bike, forget which one. Maybe a Yamahama I think, but the fan I have needs to have an inclosure built and the backing plate of the H-D cooler modified. I was also going to run my fan in the rear.
Good luck with it, hope you keep posting with it, I'm interested in how much drop in temps are effected by air accros the coils. I'm thinking that if the temps can't be kept down when at idle it maybe due to such low oil psi that we just don't have enough overall volume (flow) to counter the increase in temps when at idle!??
Happy hunting with the fans, this is the same project that I've had in mind for quite sometime. I've got a fan from some water cooled moto-cross bike, forget which one. Maybe a Yamahama I think, but the fan I have needs to have an inclosure built and the backing plate of the H-D cooler modified. I was also going to run my fan in the rear.
Good luck with it, hope you keep posting with it, I'm interested in how much drop in temps are effected by air accros the coils. I'm thinking that if the temps can't be kept down when at idle it maybe due to such low oil psi that we just don't have enough overall volume (flow) to counter the increase in temps when at idle!??
I need to quit thinking about this. I can see more craziness in my future.
#23
#24
RE: Oil cooler fans
ORIGINAL: SpikeCT
The fans are a good idea but!!!! the additional air flow from riding would put to much axial force on the bearing hence reducing the life. those fans are not designed with a thrust bearing to accept the additional loads
The fans are a good idea but!!!! the additional air flow from riding would put to much axial force on the bearing hence reducing the life. those fans are not designed with a thrust bearing to accept the additional loads
#25
RE: Oil cooler fans
Could we mount a fan (w/o oil cooler) in the triangular gap in the down tubes? The fan could be turned on, by whatever means, when the engine needs some air flowing by it. I know it would hit the front jug mostly, but any air would be useful. I think this mod could be the most useful and less....well....ugly.
Anyone know where a small radiator fan can be purchased?
Also, another option is to install remote oil coolers in the lowers attached to the crash bar. One could install oil coolers AND fans in those w/o much noticable difference. I don't have lowers, but I was just thinking.
Anyone know where a small radiator fan can be purchased?
Also, another option is to install remote oil coolers in the lowers attached to the crash bar. One could install oil coolers AND fans in those w/o much noticable difference. I don't have lowers, but I was just thinking.
#26
RE: Oil cooler fans
Here are some fan options. The 5.2" SPAL low profile fan will blow 313 CFM and only draws 3.6 amps. They also sell a fan control kit that will turn the fan on and off automatically via an adjustablethermostat. Looks like the fan and control kit could be purchased for roughly $100 US.
Anybody know what size fan can fit on the down tubes?
Anybody know what size fan can fit on the down tubes?
#27
#28
RE: Oil cooler fans
ORIGINAL: Z_Stingray
Here are some fan options. The 5.2" SPAL low profile fan will blow 313 CFM and only draws 3.6 amps. They also sell a fan control kit that will turn the fan on and off automatically via an adjustablethermostat. Looks like the fan and control kit could be purchased for roughly $100 US.
Anybody know what size fan can fit on the down tubes?
Here are some fan options. The 5.2" SPAL low profile fan will blow 313 CFM and only draws 3.6 amps. They also sell a fan control kit that will turn the fan on and off automatically via an adjustablethermostat. Looks like the fan and control kit could be purchased for roughly $100 US.
Anybody know what size fan can fit on the down tubes?
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