I added a set of cheep baffles to try them out and they dropped the sound to that of a stock Honda so I picked up a second and better set and after cutting back the first node they now sound great. Took a little experimenting but they sound great now. Bike sits so low that they are now scraping the ground at every bump. I think the rear shocks are worn, 93 EVO with 83,000 and looks great.