Newbe question on '99 EG Ultra
#1
Newbe question on '99 EG Ultra
I hesitate to even ask as I know it's been asked before but my searches just leave me scratching my head even more... I hate to beat a dead horse with one of my first posts..... I'm looking at a '99 Ultra with 41K miles. My question is about cam chain tensioners. I know that is a common problem with this bike and I am trying to understand what this work entails. Can they be easily inspected? I called my local indy, they told me 8 hrs labor and $800+/- to do the job on both tensioners. I assume it would be wise to do them both once in there. They were replacing the chains also. What makes me confused is the talk about hydraulic tensioners/roller chains/gear drives etc. Can just the tensioning shoes be replaced or do the chains need to be done too? Is hydraulic better? I will just ride for pleasure, don't need more speed or torque. If you have read this far I appreciate your sticking with me. Thanks in advance for the advice.
#2
That seems high to me, but I do my own work. I have trust issues. How much are they asking for the bike? If it's a really good price ok, but you might be able to get into a newer bike with similar mileage, and get the 96 inch motor. Plus the updated chassis. I bought my 2011 Electra Glide Classic for $13,500 with 42k miles. I did cams over the winter and cam chain shoes looked good. The 96 has the better tensioner system. Just a thought.
#3
That seems high to me, but I do my own work. I have trust issues. How much are they asking for the bike? If it's a really good price ok, but you might be able to get into a newer bike with similar mileage, and get the 96 inch motor. Plus the updated chassis. I bought my 2011 Electra Glide Classic for $13,500 with 42k miles. I did cams over the winter and cam chain shoes looked good. The 96 has the better tensioner system. Just a thought.
#4
Thanks for the quick reply. The seller wants $6000 for the bike which is the top of my budget. That's why knowing if it needs work will be critical. I don't want to buy it and have it sit in the garage till I can get it fixed. Is it just a question of when these will go bad or do some last? I know if they go bad I'm screwed.
Edit: if you decide to try doing the work yourself, I'd loan you my cam bearing removal and install tool. Let me know how it works out.
Last edited by Buelligan666; 06-09-2015 at 11:23 AM.
#5
do you KNOW if they have ever been changed?
the 99 had a number of problems and HD addressed some of them with 'soft-recalls" and others by promising to fix damage from the cam drive or bearings destroying themselves for original owners the first 5 years or 50,000 miles
99's had problems with the cam drive- tensioners/chain
the inner cam bearing
the hardening on the cam lobes
on pre Oct 98 models the pinion bearing
the design of the heads ( the 88 TC had lower power ratings than the previous Evo motor...and the efi had higher emissions, lower MPG than the carb)
in addition the EFi version used in 99 was a mess...and that is the last year for the single piston brakes.
I wouldn;t touch a 99.
but this is your decision and the entry price is good
the 99 had a number of problems and HD addressed some of them with 'soft-recalls" and others by promising to fix damage from the cam drive or bearings destroying themselves for original owners the first 5 years or 50,000 miles
99's had problems with the cam drive- tensioners/chain
the inner cam bearing
the hardening on the cam lobes
on pre Oct 98 models the pinion bearing
the design of the heads ( the 88 TC had lower power ratings than the previous Evo motor...and the efi had higher emissions, lower MPG than the carb)
in addition the EFi version used in 99 was a mess...and that is the last year for the single piston brakes.
I wouldn;t touch a 99.
but this is your decision and the entry price is good
#6
Thanks to both of you for the input. I am mechanically capable, I do most of the work on my cars. When the indy said 8 hrs. labor I figured that put it out of my level of confidence. Thanks for the offer of the tool, I will keep that in mind.
I knew the '99 had other problems. I don't know the build date but hope to find out today. It has a power commander if that helps the FI problems, I don't know. I didn't know about the cam lobes.... good reason to re-cam I guess.
I knew the '99 had other problems. I don't know the build date but hope to find out today. It has a power commander if that helps the FI problems, I don't know. I didn't know about the cam lobes.... good reason to re-cam I guess.
#7
With 41k miles the '99 issues should have been addressed but always a good idea to look in the cam case every 20-30k miles. Yes you can replace the shoes only. Cyro shoes are a good choice. Not a bad idea to replace bearings while in there replacing shoes. Parts would be under $150 and If you aren't doing the labor, figure 3-4 hours. Gears or hyd kits are a waste unless ya are a high mileage rider imho. Oh yeah, if that '99 is fuel injected, stay away.
Last edited by 0ldhippie; 06-09-2015 at 11:55 AM.
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