Originally Posted by bagman1

Ok no ones mentioned it but how about the new S&S 143? Now lets all bitch and cry because we all want one lol.

Originally Posted by SilverEagle50

Am I wrong here? It seems that some want this 120 Street motor to be a monster just because it is bigger. To me they are just adding a new offering of motor size choice.

So now the choice is: 103 with 70hp/90 tq, 110 with ??hp/100ish tq (I'm not for sure of these numbers off the top of my head), and now the 120 with 106hp/117tq. And these are all off the show room floor stock numbers.

There are a bunch of us that aren't happy with the power of the 103. We change the exhaust, AC, and cams and feel all better because we have taken all the EPA restraints out of the formula. So why wouldn't we just feel like we have to do the same for this 120ST motor? I'm sure if we did, we would see the same 25% gain in HP and 16% gain in TQ.
If it came out to those numbers, it would then be: 133hp/135tq. How would that sound?

And yes, you can take a 103 and add say a Fuel Moto power upgrade and get to the numbers this stock 120ST has. Would probably be as dependable or maybe even more.

Originally Posted by hd_rolling

Because not all dealers will work on a bike if it has a 120R in it, I know because it happened to me when I moved from Louisiana to NC. The dealer here in town won't inspect/change the oil/ install tires etc, ect on my bike in their shop. I have to drive to a dealer 2hrs away to have any engine work done is I want a dealer to do it. Luckily I do my own work, but I would hate to be out on the road and break down and find out the the local dealer won't touch my bike.

Originally Posted by Bmusg

I think any of us would gladly take if it came in the bike. As a crate motor, I guess I don't see the market for a weaker version of the 120R. Seems a lot of cost and trouble for 107 build numbers.

Originally Posted by mgmmgm

That would be a nice deal. The 120st, with a little love would be a fun motor. S&S has their 124 c.i. and i think the 143 would be kick azzzz

Originally Posted by hd_rolling

Because not all dealers will work on a bike if it has a 120R in it, I know because it happened to me when I moved from Louisiana to NC.

Originally Posted by grbrown

This is all a matter of horses for courses. We don't all want a motor that is tuned to its limit. My 107" has a low CR and 'poor' numbers by comparison with some of the more highly tuned versions, but is great to ride.



Like H-D with this new 'touring' version of their 120, let us not forget that S&S also sell a low CR touring version of their 124". That would be my choice - unless of course S&S introduce a 143 in 'touring' tune!

I find it amusing that as soon as a new engine sticks it's head above the parapet someone demands to tune the nuts off it. Some of us are more easily pleased!