I think I have Dyno Envy
#1
I think I have Dyno Envy
I've been looking through the "Dyno Sticky" and have been marveling at the before and after numbers I see. Which leads me to my issue. I have a '04 RK Classic with K&N filter, Kirker Shark Tail slip-ons, S&S 510g geared cam kit, Dynojet PCIII, and SE EZ Adjustable pushrods. The results from my Dyno-Tuner are:
[ul][*]69.8 HP @ 5800rpm[*]77.6 TQ @ 4000rpm[/ul]
These numbers seem low compared to many of the Dyno numbers posted by others. What do you guys think? Am I suffering from 'Dyno Envy'?
Please don't get me wrong the bike really pulls at low rpm which I like
I have been considering putting on a set of SuperTrapp 2 into 1s. I presume I will need to have the current Map tweaked to account for the new exhaust. How much, if any, will this improve the overall performance?
ScooterJammer
[ul][*]69.8 HP @ 5800rpm[*]77.6 TQ @ 4000rpm[/ul]
These numbers seem low compared to many of the Dyno numbers posted by others. What do you guys think? Am I suffering from 'Dyno Envy'?
Please don't get me wrong the bike really pulls at low rpm which I like
I have been considering putting on a set of SuperTrapp 2 into 1s. I presume I will need to have the current Map tweaked to account for the new exhaust. How much, if any, will this improve the overall performance?
ScooterJammer
#2
RE: I think I have Dyno Envy
Looking at specs for your bike it seems you did not get anything for all those bucks in performance parts. I would try a different dyno test to double check the results. Here is the 2004 specs they only list stock torque but your numbers are below a factory stock machine.
MANUFACTURER Harley-Davidson® MODEL YEAR 2004 MODEL FLHRS/FLHRSI Road King®
M.S.R.P. $16,995.00 POWERTRAIN ENGINE Twin Cam 88® DISPLACEMENT 88.0 in.³ BORE X STROKE 3.75 in. x 4.00 in. COMPRESSION RATIO 8.9:1 TORQUE 86.0 ft. lbs. @ 3500 rpm
MANUFACTURER Harley-Davidson® MODEL YEAR 2004 MODEL FLHRS/FLHRSI Road King®
M.S.R.P. $16,995.00 POWERTRAIN ENGINE Twin Cam 88® DISPLACEMENT 88.0 in.³ BORE X STROKE 3.75 in. x 4.00 in. COMPRESSION RATIO 8.9:1 TORQUE 86.0 ft. lbs. @ 3500 rpm
#3
RE: I think I have Dyno Envy
Yeah that does seem to be alittle low for what you have had done. It also could be the slip-ons that you are running, I've never heard of them before so I don't know about that. But I think with a good set of pipes and a good dyno tune you should be up high 70's for HP and high 80's in TQ. My Dad's 02 88" RK With the S&S 510G's and Thunderheader slip-onsis at 76HP & 86TQ and his is carbureted with the stock ignition. I'd think with yours being a FI with the PCIII you could do better then that. Just my 2cents.............
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RE: I think I have Dyno Envy
ORIGINAL: gunrunner
Looking at specs for your bike it seems you did not get anything for all those bucks in performance parts. I would try a different dyno test to double check the results. Here is the 2004 specs they only list stock torque but your numbers are below a factory stock machine.
MANUFACTURER Harley-Davidson® MODEL YEAR 2004 MODEL FLHRS/FLHRSI Road King®
M.S.R.P. $16,995.00 POWERTRAIN ENGINE Twin Cam 88® DISPLACEMENT 88.0 in.³ BORE X STROKE 3.75 in. x 4.00 in. COMPRESSION RATIO 8.9:1 TORQUE 86.0 ft. lbs. @ 3500 rpm
Looking at specs for your bike it seems you did not get anything for all those bucks in performance parts. I would try a different dyno test to double check the results. Here is the 2004 specs they only list stock torque but your numbers are below a factory stock machine.
MANUFACTURER Harley-Davidson® MODEL YEAR 2004 MODEL FLHRS/FLHRSI Road King®
M.S.R.P. $16,995.00 POWERTRAIN ENGINE Twin Cam 88® DISPLACEMENT 88.0 in.³ BORE X STROKE 3.75 in. x 4.00 in. COMPRESSION RATIO 8.9:1 TORQUE 86.0 ft. lbs. @ 3500 rpm
Wait hold up theregunrunner those #'s are at the Crank not rear wheel #'s
My 04RK Bone stock was 59HP and 70TQ rear wheel on a Dyno jet.
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RE: I think I have Dyno Envy
ORIGINAL: 04RoadKing
Wait hold up theregunrunner those #'s are at the Crank not rear wheel #'s
My 04RK Bone stock was 59HP and 70TQ rear wheel on a Dyno jet.
ORIGINAL: gunrunner
Looking at specs for your bike it seems you did not get anything for all those bucks in performance parts. I would try a different dyno test to double check the results. Here is the 2004 specs they only list stock torque but your numbers are below a factory stock machine.
MANUFACTURER Harley-Davidson® MODEL YEAR 2004 MODEL FLHRS/FLHRSI Road King®
M.S.R.P. $16,995.00 POWERTRAIN ENGINE Twin Cam 88® DISPLACEMENT 88.0 in.³ BORE X STROKE 3.75 in. x 4.00 in. COMPRESSION RATIO 8.9:1 TORQUE 86.0 ft. lbs. @ 3500 rpm
Looking at specs for your bike it seems you did not get anything for all those bucks in performance parts. I would try a different dyno test to double check the results. Here is the 2004 specs they only list stock torque but your numbers are below a factory stock machine.
MANUFACTURER Harley-Davidson® MODEL YEAR 2004 MODEL FLHRS/FLHRSI Road King®
M.S.R.P. $16,995.00 POWERTRAIN ENGINE Twin Cam 88® DISPLACEMENT 88.0 in.³ BORE X STROKE 3.75 in. x 4.00 in. COMPRESSION RATIO 8.9:1 TORQUE 86.0 ft. lbs. @ 3500 rpm
Wait hold up theregunrunner those #'s are at the Crank not rear wheel #'s
My 04RK Bone stock was 59HP and 70TQ rear wheel on a Dyno jet.
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RE: I think I have Dyno Envy
ORIGINAL: gunrunner
It is what it is, it is from the harley specs sheet. If harley does it different, then their numbers are of no value to anyone.
ORIGINAL: 04RoadKing
Wait hold up theregunrunner those #'s are at the Crank not rear wheel #'s
My 04RK Bone stock was 59HP and 70TQ rear wheel on a Dyno jet.
ORIGINAL: gunrunner
Looking at specs for your bike it seems you did not get anything for all those bucks in performance parts. I would try a different dyno test to double check the results. Here is the 2004 specs they only list stock torque but your numbers are below a factory stock machine.
MANUFACTURER Harley-Davidson® MODEL YEAR 2004 MODEL FLHRS/FLHRSI Road King®
M.S.R.P. $16,995.00 POWERTRAIN ENGINE Twin Cam 88® DISPLACEMENT 88.0 in.³ BORE X STROKE 3.75 in. x 4.00 in. COMPRESSION RATIO 8.9:1 TORQUE 86.0 ft. lbs. @ 3500 rpm
Looking at specs for your bike it seems you did not get anything for all those bucks in performance parts. I would try a different dyno test to double check the results. Here is the 2004 specs they only list stock torque but your numbers are below a factory stock machine.
MANUFACTURER Harley-Davidson® MODEL YEAR 2004 MODEL FLHRS/FLHRSI Road King®
M.S.R.P. $16,995.00 POWERTRAIN ENGINE Twin Cam 88® DISPLACEMENT 88.0 in.³ BORE X STROKE 3.75 in. x 4.00 in. COMPRESSION RATIO 8.9:1 TORQUE 86.0 ft. lbs. @ 3500 rpm
Wait hold up theregunrunner those #'s are at the Crank not rear wheel #'s
My 04RK Bone stock was 59HP and 70TQ rear wheel on a Dyno jet.
They all do it that way. It's at the Crank NOT rear wheel #'s
Just like they listed the 103 SE RK in 2003 at 100ft lbs TQ, my Dad's 88" with 86ft lbs ofTQ at rear wheel will give one a run for it's money. But then again it is what it is....Right????
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#8
RE: I think I have Dyno Envy
I'm in Florida, it doesn't get much more sea level than that. The Kerker slip-ons are a mild after market perfomance pipe, not a top perfomance slip-on like Rinehart or SuperTrapp, etc. But, they certainly flow better than OEM pipes. After looking at the results I'm tempted to go to another Dyno-Tuner and see if I get some better numbers. Does anyone know of a good Tuner in Brevard County, Fla.?
ScooterJammer
ScooterJammer
#9
RE: I think I have Dyno Envy
Personaly I would think your combination would have been bit better.I agree about mufflers being suspect.If me I would have run good 2 into 1 or performance true duals.Maybe a budy will let you try his if you know someone who has differant pipes,its simple swap and cheaper then by lots of parts.
I always like to check out what others are running and the results and rather see two or more simular combos with same results(bypasses bull sh---).My road king with fuel injection, thunder header,s.e. air cleaner and fuel opitimizer did lil better than yours and thats with out cam change.
I always like to check out what others are running and the results and rather see two or more simular combos with same results(bypasses bull sh---).My road king with fuel injection, thunder header,s.e. air cleaner and fuel opitimizer did lil better than yours and thats with out cam change.
#10
RE: I think I have Dyno Envy
Thanks to all for the thoughtful responses. I have read that environmental factors can affect results, I believe that week was the first cold snap we had in Fla. I'm talking down in the forties, nothing real cold by any stretch of the imagination. Anyway, I think I'll end up getting SuperTrapp 2 into 1 and then have it Dyno-Tuned again.
Again, thanks for the responses.
ScooterJammer
Again, thanks for the responses.
ScooterJammer