Power Commander-Yes or No
#1
Power Commander-Yes or No
Who can or will tell me H-D's position on adding a Power Commander to a late model, '04-06, FLHT?I have a friend who rides an '04 Classic and his dealer is telling him that if he doesn't add a PC to his motorcycle that it will practically self-destruct because it's running too lean. This is after 30K care free miles. Did it automatically get in this condition after almost 3 years of riding? Why didn't he need it when he originally bought the bike?
I ride an '06 Ultra with supposedly Stage I (SE pipes, SE air cleaner and the Harley download). At least that is how I road it off the showroom floor. It runs fine. No problem whatsoever. My dealer has never mentioneda Power Commander to me or anything else for that matter. Of course I only have about 8K on the bike. Is my motorcycle going go blow up at some time in the future if I don't add a Power Commander?
And oh, by the way, what the h--- is a Power Commander supposed to do in the first place? Why do I or anyone else need one in the first place if their motorcycle is running fine? Is my friend's dealer just trying to sell Power Commanders? Is it a prerequisite that you put one on a new '07 model.
Any help or opinion will be appreciated.
I ride an '06 Ultra with supposedly Stage I (SE pipes, SE air cleaner and the Harley download). At least that is how I road it off the showroom floor. It runs fine. No problem whatsoever. My dealer has never mentioneda Power Commander to me or anything else for that matter. Of course I only have about 8K on the bike. Is my motorcycle going go blow up at some time in the future if I don't add a Power Commander?
And oh, by the way, what the h--- is a Power Commander supposed to do in the first place? Why do I or anyone else need one in the first place if their motorcycle is running fine? Is my friend's dealer just trying to sell Power Commanders? Is it a prerequisite that you put one on a new '07 model.
Any help or opinion will be appreciated.
#2
RE: Power Commander-Yes or No
I'm sure H-D would prefer you to add something with a bar & shield on it, rather than an aftermarket piece.
Power commander info can be found at: http://www.powercommander.com/powerc...x/default.aspx
If you ONLY want to correct a lean condition and not change the timing and other ignition settings, many of us are quite happy with the DFO (a.k.a. TFI) unit. It was invented by the same guy that invented the power commander to be a less expensive and less complicated alternative. Unlike the Power Commander you don't need a computer to set it up--just a small screwdriver. The Dobeck website below features a cool video showing how easy it is to install and set up.
Info on the DFO/TFI can be found at: http://www.dobeckperformance.com/
Power commander info can be found at: http://www.powercommander.com/powerc...x/default.aspx
If you ONLY want to correct a lean condition and not change the timing and other ignition settings, many of us are quite happy with the DFO (a.k.a. TFI) unit. It was invented by the same guy that invented the power commander to be a less expensive and less complicated alternative. Unlike the Power Commander you don't need a computer to set it up--just a small screwdriver. The Dobeck website below features a cool video showing how easy it is to install and set up.
Info on the DFO/TFI can be found at: http://www.dobeckperformance.com/
#3
RE: Power Commander-Yes or No
There is no reason to add a PCIII to any stock bike, yes it will run a little leaner and hotter than if it had one but it will not hurt it. Harley would not be able to sell bikes that could not be run as they come for the entire lifetime. I would say your friend must have added things like you did and yes it could damage the motor if not retuned either with the stage 1download, PCIII or other device. But if his is bone stock, then he is just plain being lied to.
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RE: Power Commander-Yes or No
ORIGINAL: mcman
Who can or will tell me H-D's position on adding a Power Commander to a late model, '04-06, FLHT?I have a friend who rides an '04 Classic and his dealer is telling him that if he doesn't add a PC to his motorcycle that it will practically self-destruct because it's running too lean. This is after 30K care free miles. Did it automatically get in this condition after almost 3 years of riding? Why didn't he need it when he originally bought the bike?
Who can or will tell me H-D's position on adding a Power Commander to a late model, '04-06, FLHT?I have a friend who rides an '04 Classic and his dealer is telling him that if he doesn't add a PC to his motorcycle that it will practically self-destruct because it's running too lean. This is after 30K care free miles. Did it automatically get in this condition after almost 3 years of riding? Why didn't he need it when he originally bought the bike?
I ride an '06 Ultra with supposedly Stage I (SE pipes, SE air cleaner and the Harley download). At least that is how I road it off the showroom floor. It runs fine. No problem whatsoever. My dealer has never mentioneda Power Commander to me or anything else for that matter. Of course I only have about 8K on the bike. Is my motorcycle going go blow up at some time in the future if I don't add a Power Commander?
And oh, by the way, what the h--- is a Power Commander supposed to do in the first place? Why do I or anyone else need one in the first place if their motorcycle is running fine? Is my friend's dealer just trying to sell Power Commanders? Is it a prerequisite that you put one on a new '07 model.
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#8
RE: Power Commander-Yes or No
Just have to chime in... If you are planning on keeping things simple by sticking just with a high flow air filter, and pipes. I'd go with the Vance and Hines fuel pak. I've got the setup with the dresser duals on my '07 Ultra and not only do I see a very respectable increase in acceleration, my fuel economy now is running around 47 to 49 mpg. Its not for anything fancy, I probably wouldn't opt for it if I was going to put in a cam and other mechanical mods... but just helping the lean nature of things and letting the bike breath easier... I couldn't be happier with mine.
#10
RE: Power Commander-Yes or No
After running some V&H pipes on my 2003 Night Train for about 8,000 miles, I finally added a PCIII because I was sick of the massive pops on deceleration.
I can't believe the difference the PCIII made!
I couldn't get a pop out of my pipes if I tried. I gained a lot of relaxing "piece of mind" just by knowing my bike is running prefect. I'm also ready to go when the time comes to up-grade the motor.
Just my .02
Good luck!
I can't believe the difference the PCIII made!
I couldn't get a pop out of my pipes if I tried. I gained a lot of relaxing "piece of mind" just by knowing my bike is running prefect. I'm also ready to go when the time comes to up-grade the motor.
Just my .02
Good luck!