I live in Quebec, Canada, and even here our politicians (poli-ti-chiens = small little dogs) said that they will follow California laws on loud pipes. What a bunch of ****en morons, specially considering that we dont have the population here that they have down there. You just cant fix stupid... maybee we should pass a law againt loud mouth politicians who pollute our brains with all their crap...

 

California is just another name for Soviet Union. Why the hell don't they deal with the REAL offensive noise--barking dogs & boom box cars.

 

I've always heard loud bikes coming up behind me while in the car. Of course they're louder after they pass but, assuming I'm biased , I took a poll of non-bike riders at work and it was unanimous that they do hear bikes before they pass. Sure the soccer mom on the cellphone or the teen would the massive woofers won't hear us but, I'll take all the help I can get.

 

You must be unaware of the services provided by your local ACLU?!

 

Loud pipes are awesome, Unfortunatly everyone does not enjoy them sensibly. Now everyone will probably pay the piper

 

There's a limit. I run aftermarket pipes but make sure I don't get on it in my neighborhood on weekend mornings, and I don't blip the throttle at intersections. I will say for a fact that when I'm in the car on the freeway I hear Harleys with aftermarket pipes a lot sooner than I hear metrics or sport bikes splitting lanes. I have a Ducati with stock pipes and I feel a lot more comfortable splitting lanes on my FXDWG than on the Duc because people DO hear me coming on it and move over.

Obviously, these Congress-critters don't ride. The blue-hairs vote. And they bitch, so that's why these things get passed. It's not Rep or Dem, it's politicians making sure they get re-elected. We riders are in a minority and they know it.

For damn sure, I won't be buying a '13 model-year bike. I'm surprised that Harley and the other bike mfrs weren't fighting this thing tooth-and-nail. In the congressional records I read, there was stated opposition from individual H-D dealers but not from the MoCo itself.

I hate to say it, but I think in some ways Cali is *becoming* a third-world country. We can't control our borders, the Legislature can't pass a budget (but they can pass these damn "nanny" laws), taxes are f'n insane (despite which we still have a $20-billion budget deficit), the schools are in the tank (I'm just happy my kids are out of high school now), there are potholes as big as the kitchen sink in roads that used to be well-maintained. If I didn't have my whole family and 90+% of my friends here I'd be tempted to move.

But then again....I like to ski one day and scuba dive or hit the beach the next...and to be able to ride all year....

 

Go to bed kid or atleast head for another room, adults are talking. I'm sure the stores that need our buisness would like us to stay.

 

The only thing surprising to me are the people surprised and upset by the measure in Ca. Everywhere during the past few years, the motorcycle industry has warned those who "demand their right to have loud pipes" are denying the rights of everyone that doesn't want to hear them.
It's already been said, in this country, majority rules. The loud pipe issue may not have been put to vote at the citizen level, but if it had, would you seriously expect a different result?
Those who put the bill in motion are elected to represent the people in their district, so in essence, the majority have been heard.
This issue has been discussed to death in this forum. I don't think anyone has ever swayed from their opinion, for or against the issue. Motorcyclists have made their position clear by inaction, and our inability to manage the issue within our community. In doing so, we have begged for government regulation. Why is it such a shock?

 

I know them!! The American Criminal Liberties Union.

 

there's their side, and there's our side, and the real truth lies somewhere in the middle.

personally, i'll keep my pipes loud.

when i'm done with this bike, i'll buy a carbed evo, and it'll be loud.

my truck is loud, too. louder than a stock bike by far.

i guess i'll be paying fines...