TOAK-The Thread of All Knowledge-PeckerWoods IMC.
01-03-2015, 09:26 AM
Club Member
Good morning, Tracy!
No apron. Wife is out of town, soooo......
No apron. Wife is out of town, soooo......
01-03-2015, 09:26 AM
Extreme HDF Member
yes indeed risingwood..and im serious too..i think it would be a blast to have you all here..i will find my camera and take pics of where we'd play..have bonfire, camp etc
01-03-2015, 09:29 AM
Moderator
01-03-2015, 09:31 AM
You've not asked for any advice but I'm gonna offer some anyway. Before you look at vehicles know what your finance options are at the lender of your choice. Compare them to what the dealer has to offer and make the best choice for you. Dealers pass thousands of loans to lenders and as such they sometimes have rates better than your own bank or CU, sometimes not.
Get a good idea what the vehicle(s) you are considering are offered for in your local market. If you look at vehicles for sale by owner in your area always remember the seller has an offering price and a taking price. Sadly, most private sellers base their price on what they owe on a vehicle as opposed to what the market is.
If you have a trade get an idea what it may or may not be worth. KBB or NADA are guides only, there are lots of variables based on miles, eqpt and condition. By the way, dealers use Black Book. It is published weekly and based on auction sales, the other guides are often times several weeks or months behind the market.
If you cannot get together on all terms don't be afraid to walk away, there are others out there.
Above all, if you find a salesperson you deem good to work with give him or her a chance to find you another one or keep you informed of new trade-ins if they don't have the one you want that day.
If you find one you like PM me and I'll tell ya what they're selling for, on average, at auction.
Get a good idea what the vehicle(s) you are considering are offered for in your local market. If you look at vehicles for sale by owner in your area always remember the seller has an offering price and a taking price. Sadly, most private sellers base their price on what they owe on a vehicle as opposed to what the market is.
If you have a trade get an idea what it may or may not be worth. KBB or NADA are guides only, there are lots of variables based on miles, eqpt and condition. By the way, dealers use Black Book. It is published weekly and based on auction sales, the other guides are often times several weeks or months behind the market.
If you cannot get together on all terms don't be afraid to walk away, there are others out there.
Above all, if you find a salesperson you deem good to work with give him or her a chance to find you another one or keep you informed of new trade-ins if they don't have the one you want that day.
If you find one you like PM me and I'll tell ya what they're selling for, on average, at auction.
01-03-2015, 09:33 AM
Extreme HDF Member
I'm all of those guys rolled into one......
Actually I'm a three deal guy. I consider that every car deal is actually three.
Price for new car
Price for old car
Financing
I realize the dealership has to make a profit, that's how they stay in business. I don't mind being fair but I expect honesty. I'm honest, you be too. Show me your invoice, let's arrive at a decent price and move on. I don't expect retail for my trade but I won't make auction price either unless you're selling yours at auction price too.
Most dealerships don't operate this way. There is the scripted dance that has to happen. You talk to salesmen, they run back and forth to the unseen "manager" who will make an appearance at some point later. I do my best to short circuit these processes. I know that just down the street is another dealer who will work just as hard to make the sale and I'm not afraid to walk out if I feel like my time is being wasted.
Actually I'm a three deal guy. I consider that every car deal is actually three.
Price for new car
Price for old car
Financing
I realize the dealership has to make a profit, that's how they stay in business. I don't mind being fair but I expect honesty. I'm honest, you be too. Show me your invoice, let's arrive at a decent price and move on. I don't expect retail for my trade but I won't make auction price either unless you're selling yours at auction price too.
Most dealerships don't operate this way. There is the scripted dance that has to happen. You talk to salesmen, they run back and forth to the unseen "manager" who will make an appearance at some point later. I do my best to short circuit these processes. I know that just down the street is another dealer who will work just as hard to make the sale and I'm not afraid to walk out if I feel like my time is being wasted.
I've been emailing a few dealerships out of town and have gotten all the song and dances including the bait and switch tactic. Epic fail on their part.
01-03-2015, 09:35 AM
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01-03-2015, 09:35 AM
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Thank you Helenwood Oh boy, oh boy, oh boy !!!
01-03-2015, 09:35 AM
Extreme HDF Member
Good advice Mickwood!! I'm fortunate right now in that I do NOT NEED a vehicle. I could drive this one for a while. So I know my bottom number and I'm not afraid to walk away. That gives me a leg up I believe.
