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#2451
OK So here's a question for those in the know:
What about people like myself who don't belong to any club, do not wear colors etc. I am guessing I probably shouldn't stop anyplace with a lot of bikes outside and guys wearing cuts--or am I ok as long as I simply cause no problems?
CISO
Those places with a lot of bikes outside are usually the most friendly and enjoyable places to stop for a cold one.
#2452
Back when I was still riding my Shovel, I saw my OL rip one of those nicotine replacement patches off of her brother's back.
It was ugly.
And hairy.
Hairy and ugly.
Scary.
Not something I would want to witness again, to be sure.
It was ugly.
And hairy.
Hairy and ugly.
Scary.
Not something I would want to witness again, to be sure.
#2453
As far as the regular guy not in a MC or RC worrying about being messed with for going into a bar with bikes in front of it, if you don't try to look like you are in a club and act like you are in one my guess is they will leave you alone.
I can see why it gets them a little ticked to see regular riders trying to look & act like them. If you didn't earn it don't try to look like you did!
I can see why it gets them a little ticked to see regular riders trying to look & act like them. If you didn't earn it don't try to look like you did!
#2454
while i've never seen a patch get ripped off a guys back, i seen a guy wearing a three piece patch get surrounded and get a good talking to about his back patch. when all was said and done he left with his "colors" turn inside out.
#2455
That's John C. McGinley, he played "Red" O'Neill in Platoon, was one of the two Bobs in "Office Space" and was on "Scrubs" He is hilarious and I couldn't stop laughing at that scene.
Bill Macy played the nerd. Strangely wearing a WWII US Army tanker helmet (easily a $250-450 dollar item last time I checked)--not something you'd want to actually wear riding--but I understand it was for the style to define his character.
OK So here's a question for those in the know:
What about people like myself who don't belong to any club, do not wear colors etc. I am guessing I probably shouldn't stop anyplace with a lot of bikes outside and guys wearing cuts--or am I ok as long as I simply cause no problems?
I know what happens in the movies I know what my gut tells me might happen, just curious from those in that lifestyle if I need to worry.
CISO
Bill Macy played the nerd. Strangely wearing a WWII US Army tanker helmet (easily a $250-450 dollar item last time I checked)--not something you'd want to actually wear riding--but I understand it was for the style to define his character.
OK So here's a question for those in the know:
What about people like myself who don't belong to any club, do not wear colors etc. I am guessing I probably shouldn't stop anyplace with a lot of bikes outside and guys wearing cuts--or am I ok as long as I simply cause no problems?
I know what happens in the movies I know what my gut tells me might happen, just curious from those in that lifestyle if I need to worry.
CISO
In my mind it is as simple as this: Yes, you might have something in common, but that doesn't make you their friend. Just like if you drove a porsche, it doesn't give you an automatic right to share a parking space with another porsche or sit at the driver's table.
#2457
At a meeting at the 2009 national PGR rallye in Ogden, Utah, all members present were informed of a situation in Oklahoma, and told not to wear any PGR insignia while traveling through Oklahoma until the situation was resolved.
I do not recall the details of the situation, nor do I care. This post is only to verify that it happened and I was there at that meeting.
If you, however, care, or doubt this post, here is a link :
http://www.centexpgr.org/news.php?readmore=86 A simple google search will turn up dozens more. The one I posted just happened to be at the top of the list.
I do not recall the details of the situation, nor do I care. This post is only to verify that it happened and I was there at that meeting.
If you, however, care, or doubt this post, here is a link :
http://www.centexpgr.org/news.php?readmore=86 A simple google search will turn up dozens more. The one I posted just happened to be at the top of the list.
That happened because a group of PGR riders, instead of focusing on their mission of honoring the fallen, decided that they wanted to act and look like an MC, which is FAR outside the scope of the PGR charter. They did this unilaterally and without regard to the established protocols that clubs and associations VOLUNTARILY abide by in OK.
They got called on it several times and ignored the focus on their activities. Eventually, the COC gave them an ultimatum.
Lack of knowledge of clubs and lack of respect for those who earn a patch, not buy one, drove this, along with arrogance. For the time being, it appears to be settled and no one was under "death threats", that's just rampant hyperbole.
If you want to be in that world, you must realize that it is for real....if not, you have no business being there.
#2459
Only patch I'll wear would be like AC/DC/Megadeth/Slayer..... sure hope some 1%'s don't decide to school me on my musical tastes
#2460
OK So here's a question for those in the know:
What about people like myself who don't belong to any club, do not wear colors etc. I am guessing I probably shouldn't stop anyplace with a lot of bikes outside and guys wearing cuts--or am I ok as long as I simply cause no problems?
I know what happens in the movies I know what my gut tells me might happen, just curious from those in that lifestyle if I need to worry.
CISO
and back to the original question
I've seen people hand over their patch after being asked politely ...
I've seen people hand over their patch after being told to hand over their patch...
I've seen people have their patch taken from them in protest...
and I've seen people have their patch ripped off their unconscious body that's laying on the floor in a pool of blood
if it's being removed, most likely you know why and how you're going to respond. When I wore mine (I retired from the club in 2003) the only way mine was coming off was the later example. And from that point forward it would have been my life's mission to get it back.
At 46, I'm a significantly different man than I was at 30