LOL, and I thought I could put alot in my saddle bags.

 

I have to say that most of you that run down MC's really need to try and hang out with one at some point in time. Yes it is true that as a probate/prospect, you do seem like you are the little bitch for the club. That however is quite the contrary. You do every little thing willingly as a probate to gain the respect and favor of each and every member of that club. A club member will not ask you to do anything he has not done himself, or would not do with you. Of course they are going to toy around with you, but don't all of you toy around with the freinds you have as it is? Without their respect, you will never be part of that brotherhood. A probate is nothing more that the low man on the totem pole. Same as on your job, on your weekend football team, the new guy one of your freinds met last week. Hell, it is about the same as being a member of a Masonic Lodge, just not as boring lol!
I hung around with my club for a long time and observed everything. Those guys would take a bullet for each other. I have come to know some very, very good freinds since joining. Although I am not a full patch member at this point, I will stand beside my brother in his time of need with or without the patch on my back and that is what true freinds are for. I know without a shadow of doubt in my mind at this point that they would do the same for me. I understand that there are clubs out there that may give the MC world a bad rap, but dont let their foolishness cloud your judgement.
My particular club does a lot of charity work for our community, which is what attracted me to them in the first place. We are not a 1% club by any means, but we still take care of business.
You can at any time walk up to a patched member of a club if you have beef with them and invite them outside to settle the score individually. However, if you just walk up to one out of the blue just to be Billy Badass, you will most assuredly have stirred up a hornets nest. Communication is key.
As far as concealed carry, I am an American damnit! I practice my rights do you?
So for those of you with brass ***** behind digital walls, please take into consideration what I have said.

WJFFWJ

 

I think a lot of people here have the same misconceptions about what is going on with motorcycle clubs as the non-riding general public - mainly their information comes second-hand from the press, which only reports crimes and then exaggerates that.

I've seen it myself, when a group I was part of many years ago was labeled as a criminal street gang, harassed, interviewed, photographed, arrested, etc., without us having any idea that we were a "gang" or had any formal association with each other or had any idea about committing crimes together. Later, as a police officer, I was taught a lot of completely untrue nonsense about the same group, that individual officers then stretched even farther - the public and police misconceptions are way different than the reality for an insider. I imagine my police training about "outlaw motorcycle gangs" was equally BS.

 

Coolbreeze, thanks for highlighting the positive aspects of your club! That's always a welcome change from those who use their club membership as a basis for threatening or trying to intimidate others.

Want to belong to an organization that's far-reaching, dictates to outsiders what they should wear, threatens those who don't agree with their make-believe games, and attempts to gain control through intimidation and violence? Go join the Taliban. They do all of the above, and far more effectively than any violence-based club. We're also in the process of eradicating them with lead and spent uranium, as all such organizations deserve.

So we also respond to dogs whose dominance drive makes them a danger to anyone outside their pack.

So motorcycle clubs who don't seek the same fate as the Taliban and wild dogs should take steps to differentiate themselves from the Taliban and wild dogs in their behavior, as well. If your club contributes to charity, supports its members well, and doesn't try to extend their influence beyond its membership through terrorism, then you should be very proud of it and advertise it more. That's the kind of positive press clubs need, rather than the fear-mongering, anti-liberty sort they sometimes get here!

 

Sir,

I think you need to go back and read your last post! Your lecturing to us like we're "stepchildren" and your the one that came up with the "conceal carry, bring a lawyer with a Camera,Bullshit!

Not given to violence, man you are contradicting yourself in everyother sentence.

So your "not given to violence" idea of the day, is to arm yourself, put on a vest that is sure to offend a 1% MC, waltz up in their face, with a lawyer with a camera "at a descrete distance", and basicily force the issue ! And that's is not a given to violence idea.

I promise you, I know more 1%ers than you have probably ever seen. Been around them all my life, I've never had any problems at all, I've been to their Clubhouse's and to private functions. Places most people never get to see, and it's not because I'm a Badass, it's because I show respect for their organization and their lifestyle, and they know I can be trusted.
I did not chase them down like a love struck "grouppie", I worked at a Harley Dealership and got to know them on a daily basis, when they had parties, I went and partied with them, and loved it!

So please don't make a stupid statement like you did, and then comeback and chastise everyone as not understanding how we should conduct ourselfs with a "conceal carry", or how we should act around "little boys with their secret handshake clubs".

It's very clear here, who doesn't understand the way it really is !!!

 

Thank you for this clear confession that you can't tell the difference between wearing controversial clothing and an act of physical violence. If they are the same thing to you, then you are exactly the sort of psychopath against whom free men prepare to protect themselves and their families.

As I wrote above, there's a far more effective organization that does this: they're called the Taliban, and they force their women to wear burqas and beat them brutally if they do not comply. For their inhumanity and psychopathy, we have declared war on them and decided to destroy them.

Ride safe, and have a nice day.

 

Please, please, please provide your Lawyer with backup batteries for that camera - Can't wait to see it on Youtube! Are you a Cop or just really Lame?

 

i girl asked me in a bar one time why I was wearing a leather vest and wasn't it hot, i told her it was to carry a phone , lighter, smokes, gloves and stuff like that. i don't have bags and i don't like craming a lot of stuff into my jean pockets.

So she said "oh so it's like a man purse" and at first i was pissed , later i realized it is like a man purse, but who cares

 

I admit my contact with any patch holder club is limited. I get confused when we have many posters saying the clubs are full of great guys who would do anything for a friend and contribute to charity and who just want to be left alone and ride free. (I actually think all those things are true to some extent)
Then we have EVERY 1% post ever started that talks about the extreme violence that will be visited on a non-member who offends the club in some way (even minor ways such as asking the wrong question or wearing the wrong patch).
As I said, my experience is limited to a group in my home town who were good guys but they were also psychopathic felons. If we were in a bar (any bar - not a claimed bar of the group) and that group came in - we knew to leave or else someone would get a beating before the night was up. An argument over a pool game would end up with a civilian in the ER after a group pounding. If you met these guys away from the club, they were good guys. With the club, it was different.

Wait...what was this thread about?

 

From a vest conversation to taliban, wtf