I love that quote, and I have been thinking of it ever since the story of this case broke.

 

Well, I could be an exception on this board, but generally speaking I don't give a crap what people wear, what color their shoe laces are, what they tattoo on themselves, or what they call themselves.

99% of the time I also don't give a crap what they say or what they think, either.

I occasionally care about what they do, but even that is mostly limited to how it impacts what I do. So the answer to your question is basically "Yeah, I'd be okay with them braiding their hair, wearing nylons and getting roses tattooed on their butts". I seriously don't give a **** one way or the other.

Speaking of evading questions, however, you failed to answer mine: I didn't ask you what they should NOT wear. I asked you what you thought they SHOULD wear. Precisely what do you personally consider to be an "appropriate look" for our hypothetical LEO "poser gang member wannabe's"?

What would you find acceptable that wouldn't trigger all your issues?

 

I didn't evade your question, you just didn't like my answer. My answer was to wear anything that does not mimic criminal gangs, AND also don't mimic other customs and protocols of criminal gangs.

You are ignoring that the what they are wearing isn't just some odd/eccentric/unusual symbols they are symbols that specifically mimic criminal gangs. The ACT of cops mimicking a gang is an embarrassment to the profession.

 

For what it's worth I agree with you on this one. I don't think LEO clubs should wear their club colors while in a bar, it's the equivalent of wearing your uniform while drinking and I've never done it myself. I have been to restaurants and had a beer with dinner though, I don't consider that the same as hanging in a bar.

As for the group photos, so what? You've never posed for a group photo? It's not like the LEOs are throwing gang signs. It's nothing more than a group of guys who share a profession and a similar mind set.

I could post group photos of my hunting club where we're all dressed in camo holding our rifles looking like a militia group. Would that mean we're emulating the Michigan-based militia group that was charged with conspiring to kill police officers, no.



OMC's don't own the rights to the biker look. There were clubs before them that wore leather and rode motorcycles.

 

In your opinion... Clearly a lot of professional cops who participate in these LEO motorcycle clubs disagree with you.

I'm not ignoring anything. What they wear doesn't bother me. You're the guy getting escalated over cops wearing 3-piece colors, rockers, etc.

You seem to feel strongly about this issue. That has to be frustrating, because the Iron Brotherhood (and many other LEO motorcycle clubs coast to coast) aren't likely to change their ways. You may want to talk to someone about why their lifestyle matters so much to you. In the meantime, consider switching to decaf.

You're welcome to the last word, but take a look at what these cops do, rather than how they dress. The downside to freedom is that nobody gets to dictate what gangmembers should wear and what cops should wear. You have to tell people apart by how they live their lives.

Ride safe,

Doc

 

Why is it that Cops can stop a bike club and harrass them for no other reason than wearing cuts? The idea that you are an organized gang because you fly colors is ludicrous when you have LEO clubs doing the same thing. I have seen LEO clubs that don't follow speed limits or stop for lights when running in formation. What makes them special? Why was a LEO hanging out wearing a cut in a bar where HA's and other clubs were obviously hanging out? Sounds to me like he or his club were looking to start some s;'t. I guess everyone was supposed to be scared because he was in a LEO "gang". Maybe that's why they have LEO only clubs.

 

it's NOT the wives and girlfriends that are the property of the member it's the cut itself that belongs to that member...IF yer gonna talk about something at least be accurate

 

It looks like you feel anyone that wears a Leather Vest with pins and patches are mimicking the Outlaws, and is "Acting like a Gang Member".

I was on a Motorcycle for as long as I can remember behind my parents. I got my first bike at 10. I rode when I was in the Army and overseas 1973-1977. I rode for a few years after I got out with an Outlaw club. I left the club and rode my motorcycle after I was Sworn In as LEO. I rode for 8 years with a 3 Patch Public Safety Officer Club. (LEO &Fire Fighters). I left the club but still ride. I still ride to Rallies like Sturgus.

I ride how I want because I can. You are free to ride how you want and to think that every LEO should not dresgo to anything that has Outlaw Gangs (Your name, not mine) that attend.

Just remember. Freedom is not free. People like bought and paid to give it to you.

 

It looks like you feel anyone that wears a Leather Vest with pins and patches are mimicking the Outlaws, and is "Acting like a Gang Member".

I was on a Motorcycle for as long as I can remember behind my parents. I got my first bike at 10. I rode when I was in the Army and overseas 1973-1977. I rode for a few years after I got out with an Outlaw club. I left the club and rode my motorcycle after I was Sworn In as LEO. I rode for 8 years with a 3 Patch Public Safety Officer Club. (LEO & Fire Fighters). I left the club but still ride. I still ride to Rallies like Sturgus.


I ride how I want because I can. You are free to ride how you want and to think that every LEO should not dress or go to anything that has Outlaw Gangs (Your name, not mine) that attend.


Just remember. Freedom is not free. People like me fought and paid to give it to you.

 

Hows this for an LEO club uniform. Can we wear this without pissing off the COC.