Great, these patches could get my azz kicked
#201
11-21-2009, 10:07 PM
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My theory about shirts/stickers/patches... if I even think they might cause me unwanted drama, I will not display or wear it.'
This is just my opinion and I'm only speaking for myself
This is just my opinion and I'm only speaking for myself
#203
11-22-2009, 01:54 AM
The feds coined the term gang to certain clubs. This way they can go after them under gang laws. When the local cops go after clubs the same way, it brings in more $$ from the Feds.
I read the annual reports as well as the quarterly gang reports. Gangs such as the Crips, Bloods, M13 etc. take up about 90% of the reports whereas MCs only garner the remaining 10%. Interesting.
#205
11-22-2009, 02:00 AM
You're a cop, do your investigating elsewhere.
#208
11-22-2009, 06:47 AM
goshen orange county NY, about 55 miles north of NYC in the historic hudson valley, name is mike dowling - hence mikeingoshen
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11-22-2009, 06:52 AM
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KRS, pretty much all of the club members I know in this forum are proud to announce who they run with in here.....Angels, Outlaws, Mongols, Black Pistons, etc, I know members from all of those plus a few more here.
A lot of them have it in their avatars, sigs, and sig pics.
who do you run with mic?
this thread needs a "these comments are worthless without colors" smiley
A lot of them have it in their avatars, sigs, and sig pics.
who do you run with mic?
this thread needs a "these comments are worthless without colors" smiley
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#210
11-22-2009, 11:49 AM
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They were Club Ps.
OC covers a broad base. Does your Dept. handle your salary while you're in training or do the Feds pick up the tab? No need to answer. It's both. If your Dept is lucky enough, they get Fed $ to send you off to school and to pay your per diem.
Yet you used the term "gang" in your earlier post, much like the Feds paint with a broad brush. Now you use club. Which is it?
The feds coined the term gang to certain clubs. This way they can go after them under gang laws. When the local cops go after clubs the same way, it brings in more $$ from the Feds.
I read the annual reports as well as the quarterly gang reports. Gangs such as the Crips, Bloods, M13 etc. take up about 90% of the reports whereas MCs only garner the remaining 10%. Interesting.
OC covers a broad base. Does your Dept. handle your salary while you're in training or do the Feds pick up the tab? No need to answer. It's both. If your Dept is lucky enough, they get Fed $ to send you off to school and to pay your per diem.
Yet you used the term "gang" in your earlier post, much like the Feds paint with a broad brush. Now you use club. Which is it?
The feds coined the term gang to certain clubs. This way they can go after them under gang laws. When the local cops go after clubs the same way, it brings in more $$ from the Feds.
I read the annual reports as well as the quarterly gang reports. Gangs such as the Crips, Bloods, M13 etc. take up about 90% of the reports whereas MCs only garner the remaining 10%. Interesting.
The MCs I referred to are listed under their own writing as clubs, but they are in fact gangs. just because Crips, Bloods, MS13, LK are on more reports doing more dirty work than the MCs, doesn't mean the MCs are not gangs. The activity that they have participated in has brought them the title. the MC itself carries the title. the members are not ALL bad, as in, not ALL engaged in criminal activity. The track record, and convictions show a pattern of organized criminal activity.
if you read my previous posts in this thread, you will see that i have had decent dealings with many members of local MCs. I have also had decent dealings with members of the aforementioned bloods, crips and LKs... notice i don't say MS13. I treat every person i meet in life with respect, until they change the tone. i respond in kind to any shift presented to me by any person i encounter. respect is the first step. i do not condemn the person in front of me for wearing a vest with rockers, but i am constantly reevaluating my surroundings... as i do with every person i encounter.
if you feel that every cop is out to bash MCs, then you are certainly misguided. some of us are quite diplomatic in how we handle ourselves. my approach to others has gotten me through almost 20 years in LE, and 40+ years of life. if i met you in person, and you were wearing colors of an OMG, i would still break bread , or buy you a drink. if that changes to i know you are a convicted felon... i would tip my hat and move on.
http://www.justice.gov/criminal/gang...otorcycle.html
DOJ on Outlaw Motorcycle Gangs.