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Old 10-13-2023, 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Northern Glide
Got 'em at the store. How many would you like?
How about a a Para-Ordnance P14-.45?
 
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Originally Posted by nevada72
Hah! Yeah it is. But I had the 1911 so it was about $500 to convert and will be just as good. And I like the John Browning design. Desert Eagle is nice too, but too damn heavy. S&W Mountain gun would be ideal, but brutal to shoot.
I've packed this gun all over the Rocky Mountains hunting elk. A bow is a lethal weapon, this pistol was for personal protection. Back in the 90's this was my go to. Ruger Redhawk, 44 mag. Damn thing feels like it weighs 10 lbs. It was a beast to pack around. One year watching The Outlaw Jose Wales gave me an idea, and I strapped the holster to the tree of my saddle so I wouldn't have to tote it. Only did that one year. Too many ways to get in a wreck on horseback and lose my gun when I may need it most, so I just continued to tote it.

It's scarred and beat up from busting mountain brush, no matter, it's retired anyway.







 
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I have to remind you guys how big a charging grizzly can be, and how damn fast and scary. The fewer shots to eliminate the threat the better because if that animal gets to you, you are going to get messed up. I can’t stress enough the need to go overkill on this one.

If you can, a 408 mm Ruger is the best choice.
 

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A pistol in all reality ain't worth a damn against a Grizzly bear, but it's better than nothing. A hand cannon is uncomfortable as hell to shoot and probably not very accurate if you were being charged by a bear.

If I lived and worked in Grizz country I would be toting a 12 gauge shotgun loaded with 00 buck. I wouldn't want a pistol that would **** him off, I would want to turn his Goddamn face into jelly.

Taken in Montana a few months ago. Would you shoot him with a pistol? LMAO.....






 
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Only if it was 408mm, Jack.
 
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Originally Posted by soft 02
I'm holding out for a Springfield hellcat. Waiting for father in law to buy it and gift it to me. At this point it's the only way to get one in Ca. I can't buy off roster guns from cop friends anymore.
How I got my match grade M1 Garand. Old boy specifically left all the hardware to me, not the other SIL. Picked up a few nice toys.
 
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Only if it was 408mm, Jack.
Grizz aren't the brightest but even they wouldn't go up against that....
 
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Originally Posted by Northern Glide
A 45 gives you one shot, and it better be between the eyes. Even so, the bear eats you.
I would never use a .45 on a bear. Mine's a .460 Rowland.

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I'm holding out for a Springfield hellcat. Waiting for father in law to buy it and gift it to me. At this point it's the only way to get one in Ca. I can't buy off roster guns from cop friends anymore.
Originally Posted by Northern Glide
Lou, before you buy a Hellcat take a close look at the Sig P365 XL Macro. It comes with a shorter grip if desired.

Originally Posted by soft 02
I know the 365 is better but I already have one Springfield.
The 365 isn't better than the Hellcat or vice versa. two very similar guns that appeal to the individual. I auditioned both extensively and settled on the Hellcat for the pure and simple reason that I hit better with it. I have the Shield SMc red dot and it's a great daily carry gun. But the 365 is just as good for the people that prefer it. By my estimation you can't go wrong either way.

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I've packed this gun all over the Rocky Mountains hunting elk. A bow is a lethal weapon, this pistol was for personal protection. Back in the 90's this was my go to. Ruger Redhawk, 44 mag. Damn thing feels like it weighs 10 lbs. It was a beast to pack around. One year watching The Outlaw Jose Wales gave me an idea, and I strapped the holster to the tree of my saddle so I wouldn't have to tote it. Only did that one year. Too many ways to get in a wreck on horseback and lose my gun when I may need it most, so I just continued to tote it.

It's scarred and beat up from busting mountain brush, no matter, it's retired anyway.






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A pistol in all reality ain't worth a damn against a Grizzly bear, but it's better than nothing. A hand cannon is uncomfortable as hell to shoot and probably not very accurate if you were being charged by a bear.

If I lived and worked in Grizz country I would be toting a 12 gauge shotgun loaded with 00 buck. I wouldn't want a pistol that would **** him off, I would want to turn his Goddamn face into jelly.

Taken in Montana a few months ago. Would you shoot him with a pistol? LMAO.....





I've fired Red Hawks. Great choice. But as you said, too damn big for comfortable carry. I know a pistol isn't ideal. But I need something that I'll be able to pack in any time I go out in the wilderness. or just a light hike where we have bear, wildcat, and yes, 2 legged animals. If I was going into known Griz country I would carry a 45-70 Henry. But honestly, I avoid it. I'm content to wander regions where I'm not so far down the food chain.

 
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Old 10-13-2023, 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by nevada72
The 365 isn't better than the Hellcat or vice versa. two very similar guns that appeal to the individual. I auditioned both extensively and settled on the Hellcat for the pure and simple reason that I hit better with it. I have the Shield SMc red dot and it's a great daily carry gun. But the 365 is just as good for the people that prefer it. By my estimation you can't go wrong either way.
Personal preference is good. The Hellcat cannot offer you a 17 round mag that the XL can.
 
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Old 10-13-2023, 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Northern Glide
Personal preference is good. The Hellcat cannot offer you a 17 round mag that the XL can.

Stan, Stan, Stan....

Do I really need to point out the size difference? And that, if you're comparing apples to apples, the Hellcat Pro is dimensionally identical to the XL and has a 17 rd mag?

I like the Hellcat for it's very concealable size combined with a more than adequate capacity. It was a significant upgrade from my 8 round single stack Shield. I also love the U-notch rear sight. But I have the red dot so it's not as big a deal as without the red dot.
 


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