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Hi Mick -
Still been receiving PT at the same local hospital. Tuesday morning PT staff and I take him home for capabilities test in his house. From what I understand so far, and I have more questions to ask, if he and his house "passes muster", he'll go back home shortly thereafter. Naturally he'll need some home health care visits, possibly frequent, but it beats a nursing home. I'll tell him you were asking - Thanks Mick.
Stan, not sure what you have out there but here the county has some excellent programs with aides coming in every morning to help out. Make beds, help get dressed, help with breakfast. The hospital should have all that info if they haven't given it to you already.
 
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Bill, I seem to remember that any outlet within 6' of sink/tub/water has to GFCI
 
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Halito Woods..... all of ya have been busy this morning. Hard to keep up with y'all. Cold day today. Got morning routine done, will be heading to Post in a bit...get to play bartender this afternoon. So don't look for much from me. Unless it's really slow, which I expect it to be.
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Originally Posted by BARACU
Bill, I seem to remember that any outlet within 6' of sink/tub/water has to GFCI
I think he mentioned GFCI Al.

Looked it up - no specification as to height above sink (that I can find), so use common sense. Given the option I would always have it to the left or right of the sink.
 
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Originally Posted by nevada72
I think he mentioned GFCI Al.

Looked it up - no specification as to height above sink (that I can find), so use common sense. Given the option I would always have it to the left or right of the sink.
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Bob, vaguely remember a height of 12 " or 18" above sink . Something to do with splashing. Love some of the stuff you see in the old old houses
 
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Originally Posted by BARACU
Bill, I seem to remember that any outlet within 6' of sink/tub/water has to GFCI
I have the correct. Outlet I just don’t know if there’s a code for proximity near a sink?


 
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Old 01-09-2022, 09:34 AM
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Bill....google is your friend.
 
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Old 01-09-2022, 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by rocket23
I have the correct. Outlet I just don’t know if there’s a code for proximity near a sink?

There is. It simply states that it needs to be within 36 inches of the outside edge of the sink. In other words, it is required to have an outlet by the sink.

Al - on the outlet height, I could be wrong, but I don't think I am. There are specific codes that address bathroom receptacles and the 3 biggies are -

1 - Must be GFCI
2 - Must be on a 20A circuit (Bill has the wire rated for 15A)
3 - Outlet must be present within 36 inches of the edge of the basin.

I don't recall a specific code regarding outlet height outside of ADA considerations. That said, the code book is for commercial/industrial mainly. Residential has exceptions and a different set of rules, even though it's in the same code book. Then there's healthcare facilities, which is what I specialize in. Mainly has to do with grounding, emergency power, and isolated power. It's fairly complex.

We used to ridicule "Rezies" as lacking skill. But the truth is, they ridiculed us just as hard because we would screw things up when we got sent to residential jobs. It's a whole different ballgame with a different set of rules. Kind of like asking Russ to work on a bike mounted Go-Pro. Way under his paygrade, but the technology doesn't necessarily translate.

That said, I did do a lot of residential as a private contractor, not to mention side jobs. I've had to pass inspections and - at that time - so, ten years ago, I always passed inspection.

All this reminds me I need to do my continuing education to maintain my Master's license. It's all code, and mostly residential.
 

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Originally Posted by BARACU
Bill....google is your friend.
Gotta be careful on that one too. You'll find myriad references to various topics. It's kind of like asking what torque to use on a primary compensator nut here on HDF - you'll get 20 response, many of them incorrect.

On top of that, if you look at the date of many of the topics, they are from 2011 or some year NOT 2022. I don't even know what code book revision year we are on.

Bill - on the 15A thing - I know you have no other choice (within reason) than to extend the 15A circuit. I would write that one off as "grand-fathered". In other words, if it gets inspected at the time of sale, just say that's how it's always been. But it's been a lot of years since 15A outlets were acceptable. Maybe 2008 code did away with it?
 


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