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Old 12-01-2020, 05:04 PM
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Doc, I’m torn between a used 19 or 20 M8 (requires a bunch of new debt) or a stage IV 110cid kit for the king. That would zero out my mileage and add a bunch of performance for mere $2,600 dollars .
Chuck, figure out your HP to weight ratio and how much more HP you need......then lose that much weight. It'll feel faster and you'll save money by not eating...
 
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Originally Posted by RoadKing 2014
Doc, I’m torn between a used 19 or 20 M8 (requires a bunch of new debt) or a stage IV 110cid kit for the king. That would zero out my mileage and add a bunch of performance for mere $2,600 dollars .
Don’t forget when Tracy (M) upgraded the top end of his and did nothing for the bottom end, didn’t work out to well for his bike. Don’t cheap out, put a good crank in.
 
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Old 12-01-2020, 05:22 PM
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Don’t forget when Tracy (M) upgraded the top end of his and did nothing for the bottom end, didn’t work out to well for his bike. Don’t cheap out, put a good crank in.
This x 1000!

I did a 107 on my 2011 TC and spun the crank shortly thereafter. Bigger bangs also produce more heat and noise. On the twin cams it's a real can of worms. A nice new M8 will give you that plateau torque curve that you really feel vs a twin cam. They run very strong right off the showroom floor.

But honestly Chuck......no matter what you do, unless you are throwing serious HP money at a motor, they all run within a bike length or two of each other. The weight is the great equalizer.
 
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Old 12-01-2020, 05:27 PM
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Evening, bike buyers and engine builders.
I have about 25,000 miles on my 98" kit supposedly with one of the worst cranks Harley made. Y'all know how I ride. No troubles yet. Knock on Wood.
 
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Originally Posted by BARACU
Chuck, figure out your HP to weight ratio and how much more HP you need......then lose that much weight. It'll feel faster and you'll save money by not eating...
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But honestly Chuck......no matter what you do, unless you are throwing serious HP money at a motor, they all run within a bike length or two of each other. The weight is the great equalizer.
I think I am seeing a trend here, Chuck.
 
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Originally Posted by BARACU
Chuck, figure out your HP to weight ratio and how much more HP you need......then lose that much weight. It'll feel faster and you'll save money by not eating...
Al, I could lose over a hundred pounds easily but that would require leaving Trish behind
Originally Posted by Juan L
Don’t forget when Tracy (M) upgraded the top end of his and did nothing for the bottom end, didn’t work out to well for his bike. Don’t cheap out, put a good crank in.
Old blue is hardly a fare comparison to the King !
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This x 1000!

I did a 107 on my 2011 TC and spun the crank shortly thereafter. Bigger bangs also produce more heat and noise. On the twin cams it's a real can of worms. A nice new M8 will give you that plateau torque curve that you really feel vs a twin cam. They run very strong right off the showroom floor.

But honestly Chuck......no matter what you do, unless you are throwing serious HP money at a motor, they all run within a bike length or two of each other. The weight is the great equalizer.
The 110cid CVO used the identical lower end as the 103 ?.
 
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Old 12-01-2020, 05:43 PM
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Exactleee!
HEY SUCKERS , I have a 131 S&S in a 2010 FXDC & will put u all down
THOUGHTS ????
 
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Originally Posted by RoadKing 2014
Al, I could lose over a hundred pounds easily but that would require leaving Trish behind

Old blue is hardly a fare comparison to the King !

The 110cid CVO used the identical lower end as the 103 ?.
Yes. The only difference was piston diameter. I believe the Rushmores have a somewhat improved crank, but I do not know for sure. What I can tell you is I have a friend I ride with who has two CVOs and a M8 Road King. My lowly, basically stock 103 is faster than both his 110s (ones a 13 Road Glide Custom CVO and the other is a Ultra Limited CVO) and can easily keep up with his 107 M8. That said, my 103 is a strong runner.
 
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HEY SUCKERS , I have a 131 S&S in a 2010 FXDC & will put u all down
THOUGHTS ????
My thoughts are my FJ09 that cost less than your motor would bury you all day every day.
 
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Originally Posted by nevada72
Yes. The only difference was piston diameter. I believe the Rushmores have a somewhat improved crank, but I do not know for sure. What I can tell you is I have a friend I ride with who has two CVOs and a M8 Road King. My lowly, basically stock 103 is faster than both his 110s (ones a 13 Road Glide Custom CVO and the other is a Ultra Limited CVO) and can easily keep up with his 107 M8. That said, my 103 is a strong runner.
Why are u waiting to leave her ???
 


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