TOAK- Thread Of All Knowledge- Part IV
I'm about to order a Springfield XDs .45. 3.3" barrel, ought to be fun to shoot! Gonna leave the Kimber and others in the safe for a while. Bud's Gun shop has them for $430.
Just for ***** and grins gonna add a North American Arms .22 mag because I always wanted one.
Just for ***** and grins gonna add a North American Arms .22 mag because I always wanted one.
Exactly! Mines probably 3rd gen.
Too small for me. Have you looked at the Mod 2?
Yup. Go to your local pawn shop or such and pick up a cheap double or pump.
From another website....
Observations on California Shotgun Law This is the "Reader's Digest" version of the legalese reproduced down below.
From another website....
Observations on California Shotgun Law This is the "Reader's Digest" version of the legalese reproduced down below.
- Shotguns on the assault weapons list are prohibited. This eliminates a total of four "cool looking" shotguns that were big during 1980s / 1990s action movies. You can tell how the legislature formed their opinions of what to ban.
- Revolving cylinders are prohibited on all shotguns. Whether it's pump action or semi-automatic, the existence of a cylinder on a shotgun renders it an assault weapon. Just like the listed shotguns, action movies are responsible for this ban.
- Pump shotguns are pretty safe. Without a revolving cylinder, there's no way for it to become an assault weapon due to having pistol grips, vertical handgrips, etc.
- Pump shotguns can have pistol grips in California. This is re-stated from above, simply due to the overwhelming number of times folks ask this question.
- Semi-auto shotguns are allowed one "evil feature". This is unlike the rifle and handgun sections of the penal code, and probably reflects the legislature making compromises with hunters within California. This is why the Beretta M3, which a semi-auto shotgun with a pistol grip, is legal for sale in California but the version with a collapsible (i.e. telescoping) stock is not.
- Semi-auto shotguns may never have detachable magazines. This is in contrast to the rifle statute, which allows detachable magazines if there is no pistol grip, folding stock, etc. However, a Saiga-12 imported by an off-list manufacturer and equipped with a bullet button or other legally compliant magazine lock is legal.
- If a shotgun's barrel is less than 18 inches, it's illegal. This is one of the most frequently asked questions about shotguns.
- If a shotgun is less than 26 inches in overall length, it's 'short barreled', even if its barrel is 18" or longer. This is a strange point, but it's in the penal code.
I want a small gun, smaller than my Kimber Ultra Covert. I've looked at the Mod 2 but I want a .45. I am trying to stay with a consistent caliber lately. I have several 9mm, .38, .357 and .45s and I like the .45 best. When you show someone the business end of that barrel they usually become very compliant very quickly.
I call these a "get the F off me" gun
I wouldn't either! The Wingmaster is a nice shotgun!
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I've got a beautiful Wingmaster 870 and it's a great gun. NO I wouldn't suggest that you "muck up" a family heirloom, let alone a vintage piece. Shotguns can be had for a minimal investment and that would lend itself to "workshop modifications" quite nicely. I also have a Woodsmater 742 ( 30.06 ) that will finish the task should they happen to get out and make a run for it. Of course, my Colt Commander ( 45 ) is going to be the first one grabbed for. :>)