HDF removes Confederate Flag patches
#131
I can hardly begin to tell you how much that doesn't bother me, should have buried the damn thing a century ago. One country, not 2 flags.........
#133
As a newb, I was a little hesitant to jump in. But we just had an endless discussion about this at my work. It ended with us all agreeing FU and FU2. So I decided to take a closer look. To establish my credentials, I am a lifelong southern, church-going, hard-playing, motorsickle-ridin', middle-aged, white collar, white boy. I have visited many other nice areas of the country, but never wanted to live anywhere else.
First and foremost, the Stars and Bars is not the same as the battle flag:
Stars & Bars, the 1st National Flag
Battle Flag of the Army of Northern Virginia, the war flag
"Despite never having historically represented the CSA as a country nor officially recognized as one of the national flags, it is commonly referred to as "the Confederate Flag" and has become a widely recognized symbol of the American south.[32] It is also known as the rebel flag, Dixie flag, and Southern cross and is often incorrectly referred to as the "Stars and Bars".[33] (The actual "Stars and Bars" is the first national flag, which used an entirely different design.)"
(Wikipedia)
I can't agree that the war flag is not comparable to the Swastika at least in popular perception. Individual perception is individual truth regardless of accuracy. There is an undeniable visceral response to the battle flag on both sides of the issue. Just as with the swastika symbol, an ancient Hindu symbol of peace. The meaning of both have been corrupted by history both true and revised.
Unrevised historical comments such as:
Newspaper editor and flag designer, William T. Thompson said,
"As a people we are fighting maintain the Heaven-ordained supremacy of the white man over the inferior or colored race; a white flag would thus be emblematical of our cause."—William T. Thompson (April 23, 1863), Daily Morning News
In May 1863, when Thompson discovered that his design had been chosen by the Confederate Congress to become the Confederacy's next national flag, he was pleased. He praised his design as symbolizing the Confederacy's ideology and its cause of "a superior race", as well as for bearing little resemblance to the U.S. flag, which he called the "infamous banner of the Yankee vandals".
Writing for Savannah's Daily Morning News, Thompson stated:
"As a national emblem, it is significant of our higher cause, the cause of a superior race, and a higher civilization contending against ignorance, infidelity, and barbarism. Another merit in the new flag is, that it bears no resemblance to the now infamous banner of the Yankee vandals."
—William T. Thompson (May 4, 1863), Daily Morning News
For myself, if I wished to claim and display my heritage as a southerner, I would fly, tattoo, patch, paint, or whatever the 1st National, the Stars and Bars. One, because it was a true national flag of the CSA; two, because it is not immediately associated with racism fairly or unfairly; and third, because it would be funny to me (in a passive-aggressive dckhd kinda way) to be complimented by a PC Libtard on my interesting flag.
If you wave a German flag or the Stars and Bars, people are oblivious. But, you fly the Swashtika or the battle flag, and the knee jerk reaction prohibits any kind of civil discourse. I honestly urge fellow southerners who wish proclaim their heritage to raise the 1st National and let's move on.
#134
This thread has split into how many different topics now?
#135
I have to say where I live you can see the flag often and it's not hard to see who puts what meaning to it. If you appreciate Irony the ones who flaunt it as a sign of supremacy are rarely superior to anyone.
Hard to have serious dialogue with anyone who has a mullet or shaved head.
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#137
Looking at your name you should understand ROPE-A-DOPE, say one thing, show them another, and mean or do something else.
I have to say where I live you can see the flag often and it's not hard to see who puts what meaning to it. If you appreciate Irony the ones who flaunt it as a sign of supremacy are rarely superior to anyone.
Hard to have serious dialogue with anyone who has a mullet or shaved head.
{Got the main topic & the Shave in
I have to say where I live you can see the flag often and it's not hard to see who puts what meaning to it. If you appreciate Irony the ones who flaunt it as a sign of supremacy are rarely superior to anyone.
Hard to have serious dialogue with anyone who has a mullet or shaved head.
{Got the main topic & the Shave in
Last edited by ChickinOnaChain; 07-04-2015 at 09:52 AM. Reason: Not finished...I fixed the quote
#138
Here's a real twist on the racism subject - search YouTube using the words
"Dave Chappelle The Black White Supremacist Full Video"
and yes it does contain the "N" word and often. I'm sure posting the link is verboten. I wish he was still on TV....
"Dave Chappelle The Black White Supremacist Full Video"
and yes it does contain the "N" word and often. I'm sure posting the link is verboten. I wish he was still on TV....
#140
That is without a doubt the funniest DC skit I have ever seen. I can't watch it without laughing so hard my sides ache. It never gets old.