HARLEY: Harley Pro Street tuner
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10-09-2016, 09:20 PM
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Harley Pro Street tuner
Just bought a 16 Triglide and want to install air kit with street cannon mufflers with the street tuner for warranty purposes for now. I noticed there are no cal listings for triglides. Can I just use the electraglide cals for the download, I know this isn't the best tuner, but I'm not going radical with this trike like I did with my other bikes, Thanks in advance
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10-12-2016, 10:07 AM
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The warranty issue regarding the use of the Street Tuner is for 17 and future models. If you are trying to retain your warranty on your 16 you might need to inquire with the dealer about that. I know the 17 models mandate you use EPA/CARB approved parts. If you have any "off road use only performance parts" on your trike the warranty may already be void. If that's the case you might as well use a better tuner.
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SESTP CI tab in tuning file
Doesn't it allow tweaking ci, injector size, acr, eitms, spark knock (never off) values to be flashed for a tuning ride for liquid cooled motors???
I ride/tune my 2001 Buell X1W go faster sled with other laptop sw that I can modify/flash anything in the ECM with but no recorder (but not locked to a single sled either). My 2013 Ultra go touring fast, power and tq sled with dealer installed SE air and D&D Boarzilla 2:1 exhaust included Dyno time/tune with my SESTP.
I was forced to trying to figure out the dealer tune fubar I had after throwing them free money for bolting on and tuning my Stage 1 purchase when I bought it.. Suffice it to say I found the problem was between the keyboard and the throttle. The tuner used a stage 4 tuning file as a starting point (big ci cyl, + upgrade). Bike didn't run well, rear cylinder way lean and blued 2 rear cylinder heat shields. They left rear cylinder lamda locked at 1, blah, blah, where have all the tuners gone...
I fixed using/flashing a different base file making sure the tuning config matched my numbers, for correct ci, injector size, acr off, eitms off, exhaust hdi (euro sold models) off and acr off and used street riding smart tune to get it close and it ran great. And found you can do a LOT with the SE tool but you need to understand the target before you select the weapon and amo.
FYI FWIW, exhaust reversion?? Maybe a diff post..but w/o the tuner I wouldn't have been able to quantify or qualify effects of screwups either.🤣
BTW, example, I have since found my low/mid range hp and tq corrected with a 2" dia perf/wrapped Fatcat baffle in the old Boarzilla (too much pipe for a stock 103 dealers, plus it kills your VOX intercom capability) and am now working modified other values like in AFR indices, timing changes to optimize mpg in the 2800-3500 (my typical touring range) deceleration enrichment (back to original now as pop on deceleration turned out to be my riding habits and an exhaust leak)....you can be real dangerous with these tuners if your not careful.. we can throw a lot of dollars into that hole can't we..and if we don't know our subject matter a little and don't RTFM.
I can say I think I've made progress with the changes, pop on deceleration gone, low to mid tq (stump puller power) way better, mpg needs more data to know, albeit subjective improvement. I sure wish I was smart enough to get HP and torque values from my SESTP VCI recordings though... bummer. Solution for this and/or ideas like a spread sheet app taking I think rpm, AFR and fuel available and a formula to calculate or do I need to build from scratch? I'd love to see/try feedback on this one.
Regards, bc
Keep two wheels down and the wind in your face, a bug spattered grin is no disgrace.
FYI FWIW, exhaust reversion?? Maybe a diff post..but w/o the tuner I wouldn't have been able to quantify or qualify effects of screwups either.🤣
BTW, example, I have since found my low/mid range hp and tq corrected with a 2" dia perf/wrapped Fatcat baffle in the old Boarzilla (too much pipe for a stock 103 dealers, plus it kills your VOX intercom capability) and am now working modified other values like in AFR indices, timing changes to optimize mpg in the 2800-3500 (my typical touring range) deceleration enrichment (back to original now as pop on deceleration turned out to be my riding habits and an exhaust leak)....you can be real dangerous with these tuners if your not careful.. we can throw a lot of dollars into that hole can't we..and if we don't know our subject matter a little and don't RTFM.
I can say I think I've made progress with the changes, pop on deceleration gone, low to mid tq (stump puller power) way better, mpg needs more data to know, albeit subjective improvement. I sure wish I was smart enough to get HP and torque values from my SESTP VCI recordings though... bummer. Solution for this and/or ideas like a spread sheet app taking I think rpm, AFR and fuel available and a formula to calculate or do I need to build from scratch? I'd love to see/try feedback on this one.
Regards, bc
Keep two wheels down and the wind in your face, a bug spattered grin is no disgrace.
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07-31-2017, 05:15 AM
Originally Posted by rrcraw@gmail.com
I don't understand. Please educate me. Doesn't the SESTP tuning config file in the software ("Tuning" tab/section) prior to doing flash of the ECM of the final values or in a VCI record data gathering ride or track (Dyno) run allow changes or support for liquid cooled models??
Doesn't it allow tweaking ci, injector size, acr, eitms, spark knock (never off) values to be flashed for a tuning ride for liquid cooled motors???
I ride/tune my 2001 Buell X1W go faster sled with other laptop sw that I can modify/flash anything in the ECM with but no recorder (but not locked to a single sled either). My 2013 Ultra go touring fast, power and tq sled with dealer installed SE air and D&D Boarzilla 2:1 exhaust included Dyno time/tune with my SESTP.
I was forced to trying to figure out the dealer tune fubar I had after throwing them free money for bolting on and tuning my Stage 1 purchase when I bought it.. Suffice it to say I found the problem was between the keyboard and the throttle. The tuner used a stage 4 tuning file as a starting point (big ci cyl, + upgrade). Bike didn't run well, rear cylinder way lean and blued 2 rear cylinder heat shields. They left rear cylinder lamda locked at 1, blah, blah, where have all the tuners gone...
Doesn't it allow tweaking ci, injector size, acr, eitms, spark knock (never off) values to be flashed for a tuning ride for liquid cooled motors???
I ride/tune my 2001 Buell X1W go faster sled with other laptop sw that I can modify/flash anything in the ECM with but no recorder (but not locked to a single sled either). My 2013 Ultra go touring fast, power and tq sled with dealer installed SE air and D&D Boarzilla 2:1 exhaust included Dyno time/tune with my SESTP.
I was forced to trying to figure out the dealer tune fubar I had after throwing them free money for bolting on and tuning my Stage 1 purchase when I bought it.. Suffice it to say I found the problem was between the keyboard and the throttle. The tuner used a stage 4 tuning file as a starting point (big ci cyl, + upgrade). Bike didn't run well, rear cylinder way lean and blued 2 rear cylinder heat shields. They left rear cylinder lamda locked at 1, blah, blah, where have all the tuners gone...
I fixed using/flashing a different base file making sure the tuning config matched my numbers, for correct ci, injector size, acr off, eitms off, exhaust hdi (euro sold models) off and acr off and used street riding smart tune to get it close and it ran great. And found you can do a LOT with the SE tool but you need to understand the target before you select the weapon and amo.
These will give you the potential to get all out of the engine. I always advice novice tuners to read some books in regards to EFI tuning. That way you will understand much more when you start the effective tuning. You will understand as well what the dangers are and what damage can be done by a bad tune. Its what you are planning to do, if you like tuning you better go for a full tuner that enables O2 closed loop tuning at the full AFR range.
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07-31-2017, 07:14 AM
I don't understand. Please educate me. Doesn't the SESTP tuning config file in the software ("Tuning" tab/section) prior to doing flash of the ECM of the final values or in a VCI record data gathering ride or track (Dyno) run allow changes or support for liquid cooled models??[/left]
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