Troubling report from Blackstone
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Troubling report from Blackstone
Good morning my friends. I just got back the results of the oil analysis on the transmission oil on my 06 XL1200, with 36012 on the clock as of this morning. I've been running Formula+ since I've had the thing, and change it roughly every 10k, but this sample only had 7611 miles on it. This sample is the first I've sent on the transmission lube on this bike, (my bad for not doing it in the past), but here is what Blackstone had to say.
an issue. We'll see what the next sample looks like before calling anything a for-sure problem. Is it shifting well?
my reading averages
Aluminum 96 23
Iron 105 44
Copper 21 6
It does shift well. Any recommendations on another lubricant for this bike? Thanks in advance for your help.
The transmission for your motorcycle has some high readings. Aluminum, iron, and copper are all far above
averages (which are based on about 5,000 miles of oil use), and silicon is high as well. If this is only the second oil
change for this transmission, maybe what we're looking at is just residual from the break-in period (with metals from parts
building tolerances and silicon from sealers). If this transmission has seen more than 3 oil changes, though, there might
averages (which are based on about 5,000 miles of oil use), and silicon is high as well. If this is only the second oil
change for this transmission, maybe what we're looking at is just residual from the break-in period (with metals from parts
building tolerances and silicon from sealers). If this transmission has seen more than 3 oil changes, though, there might
an issue. We'll see what the next sample looks like before calling anything a for-sure problem. Is it shifting well?
my reading averages
Aluminum 96 23
Iron 105 44
Copper 21 6
It does shift well. Any recommendations on another lubricant for this bike? Thanks in advance for your help.
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Good morning my friends. I just got back the results of the oil analysis on the transmission oil on my 06 XL1200, with 36012 on the clock as of this morning. I've been running Formula+ since I've had the thing, and change it roughly every 10k, but this sample only had 7611 miles on it. This sample is the first I've sent on the transmission lube on this bike, (my bad for not doing it in the past), but here is what Blackstone had to say.
an issue. We'll see what the next sample looks like before calling anything a for-sure problem. Is it shifting well?
my reading averages
Aluminum 96 23
Iron 105 44
Copper 21 6
It does shift well. Any recommendations on another lubricant for this bike? Thanks in advance for your help.
The transmission for your motorcycle has some high readings. Aluminum, iron, and copper are all far above
averages (which are based on about 5,000 miles of oil use), and silicon is high as well. If this is only the second oil
change for this transmission, maybe what we're looking at is just residual from the break-in period (with metals from parts
building tolerances and silicon from sealers). If this transmission has seen more than 3 oil changes, though, there might
averages (which are based on about 5,000 miles of oil use), and silicon is high as well. If this is only the second oil
change for this transmission, maybe what we're looking at is just residual from the break-in period (with metals from parts
building tolerances and silicon from sealers). If this transmission has seen more than 3 oil changes, though, there might
an issue. We'll see what the next sample looks like before calling anything a for-sure problem. Is it shifting well?
my reading averages
Aluminum 96 23
Iron 105 44
Copper 21 6
It does shift well. Any recommendations on another lubricant for this bike? Thanks in advance for your help.
What year and model are you running Mobil 1 75W/90 gear oil in?
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I'm with Kevin. Don't think Formula + would be any cause. Should change the oil at least once a year. Even at 30k you should have done it close to 10 times if done annually. Maybe overkill for some but let your new clutch run a 1k or so. Change oil again and then send it off. See what they say then. I wouldn't worry and wonder why you would even send oil analysis off if no problems to begin with? I would never send one off unless I suspected a problem.
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I'm with Kevin. Don't think Formula + would be any cause. Should change the oil at least once a year. Even at 30k you should have done it close to 10 times if done annually. Maybe overkill for some but let your new clutch run a 1k or so. Change oil again and then send it off. See what they say then. I wouldn't worry and wonder why you would even send oil analysis off if no problems to begin with? I would never send one off unless I suspected a problem.
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I'm with Kevin. Don't think Formula + would be any cause. Should change the oil at least once a year. Even at 30k you should have done it close to 10 times if done annually. Maybe overkill for some but let your new clutch run a 1k or so. Change oil again and then send it off. See what they say then. I wouldn't worry and wonder why you would even send oil analysis off if no problems to begin with? I would never send one off unless I suspected a problem.
You obviously don't understand the benefits of monitoring the power-train's condition with UOA's. There's a reason many large fleet operators do so. The early detection of a problem through UOA often results in less costly repairs and the ability to better plan for it.
If the OP in this case was planning a 5,000 mile cross country trip this Spring, the UOA just might have saved him from an expensive, major breakdown on the road.
Seldom is ignorance bliss.......
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Engine oil should be changed at least once a year to eliminate the buildup of acid in the oil that is a byproduct of the combustion process. Since there are no combustion byproducts in the gearbox to contaminate the oil, there is no requirement to change the primary/tranny annually unless dictated by mileage or other extenuating circumstances.
You obviously don't understand the benefits of monitoring the power-train's condition with UOA's. There's a reason many large fleet operators do so. The early detection of a problem through UOA often results in less costly repairs and the ability to better plan for it.
If the OP in this case was planning a 5,000 mile cross country trip this Spring, the UOA just might have saved him from an expensive, major breakdown on the road.
Seldom is ignorance bliss.......
You obviously don't understand the benefits of monitoring the power-train's condition with UOA's. There's a reason many large fleet operators do so. The early detection of a problem through UOA often results in less costly repairs and the ability to better plan for it.
If the OP in this case was planning a 5,000 mile cross country trip this Spring, the UOA just might have saved him from an expensive, major breakdown on the road.
Seldom is ignorance bliss.......