Are Sportster stators overworked?
#1
Are Sportster stators overworked?
Sure seems to be a lot of stator problems here on the forum.
The 4 GE 198 bulbs (running lights, not turn signal) draw 12 amps all the time.
That's a big draw when cranking also, when I had my HD Soft-tail I rigged it
so I could shut all lights off while cranking.
Anyway, I haven't rode a bike after dark for 35 years and was thinking about
disabling the running light filaments in the bulbs not turn signals and not
change anything with the wiring, to eliminate the 12 amp constant draw.
At least on the front, I think headlight and tail light in the bright Florida sun
is enough.
My old Triumph has just head light and tail light and has had the same stator for 45 years.
Your thoughts please.
...jerry
The 4 GE 198 bulbs (running lights, not turn signal) draw 12 amps all the time.
That's a big draw when cranking also, when I had my HD Soft-tail I rigged it
so I could shut all lights off while cranking.
Anyway, I haven't rode a bike after dark for 35 years and was thinking about
disabling the running light filaments in the bulbs not turn signals and not
change anything with the wiring, to eliminate the 12 amp constant draw.
At least on the front, I think headlight and tail light in the bright Florida sun
is enough.
My old Triumph has just head light and tail light and has had the same stator for 45 years.
Your thoughts please.
...jerry
#2
I think the voltage regulator causes the stator to run full output all the time, then shunts extra current to ground. What is your total amperage draw at 12 volts? There are aftermarket regulators that don't operate like that and only work the stator as much as necessary, generating less heat from the stator.
I have not read an extraordinary number bad stator reports IMO, the voltage regulators on the '12 bikes were defective on quite a few. Maybe those who had problems used extra lights, etc. and overloaded them, who knows?
I certainly wouldn't panic about it unless you are putting on electrical additions.
John
I have not read an extraordinary number bad stator reports IMO, the voltage regulators on the '12 bikes were defective on quite a few. Maybe those who had problems used extra lights, etc. and overloaded them, who knows?
I certainly wouldn't panic about it unless you are putting on electrical additions.
John
#3
You can look into switching bulbs to 1157 if they are the dual filament 198. Is there a reason to be running dual? iirc my fronts are dual filament and back are single. But you need to remember that unless you are powering the bright filament all the time you are really only running about .5 amp per bulb.
#4
You can look into switching bulbs to 1157 if they are the dual filament 198. Is there a reason to be running dual? iirc my fronts are dual filament and back are single. But you need to remember that unless you are powering the bright filament all the time you are really only running about .5 amp per bulb.
Should have put my ride in the OP.
Didn't look at the back lights, hmmm ...should be the same as yours.
Gunna check it out.
#5
Your old Triumph dates back to a time when daytime lights were not compulsory and has a much lower output than say a current Triumph. Same with our Sporties, current models have far higher output alternators than older models. That draw you mention is a small proportion of total output.
You may find when pressing the starter button that your lights go out briefly. Some bikes have that arrangement to reduce load on the battery for those first turns of the engine during starting. Unless you want to tinker for the sake of it, I suggest leaving the poor thing alone - you spent more than 12 amps-worth of effort typing your original post!
You may find when pressing the starter button that your lights go out briefly. Some bikes have that arrangement to reduce load on the battery for those first turns of the engine during starting. Unless you want to tinker for the sake of it, I suggest leaving the poor thing alone - you spent more than 12 amps-worth of effort typing your original post!
Last edited by grbrown; 01-05-2014 at 10:22 AM.
#6
SlyeDog was right, I thought ALL 4 signal lights were also running lights, but it's just the front. Probably only amounts to an amp or two.
What brought this on is the volt meter I installed on the XL1200C reads about 13 volts
and the one I installed on the gixer (with LED) reads 14.3 volts.
Maybe the battery was just a little low.
...jerry '06 XL1200C
What brought this on is the volt meter I installed on the XL1200C reads about 13 volts
and the one I installed on the gixer (with LED) reads 14.3 volts.
Maybe the battery was just a little low.
...jerry '06 XL1200C
#7
Sporties up through 2006 have 22 amp charging systems. Their typical TOTAL running amp load is 11-12 amps, with the headlight being the largest load at 4 - 4.5 amps (Lo/Hi beam).
2007 and later Sporties have a ~32 amp charging system to handle the increased load of the EFI and electric fuel pump.
Harley stators are junk and fail frequently. The situation is made worse due to the fact that Harley uses "shunt" type regulators which cause the stator to run continuously at 100% load.
Cycle Electric makes a much better quality stator and a "switching" type regulator that draws stator power only as needed.
2007 and later Sporties have a ~32 amp charging system to handle the increased load of the EFI and electric fuel pump.
Harley stators are junk and fail frequently. The situation is made worse due to the fact that Harley uses "shunt" type regulators which cause the stator to run continuously at 100% load.
Cycle Electric makes a much better quality stator and a "switching" type regulator that draws stator power only as needed.
Trending Topics
#8
Your old Triumph dates back to a time when daytime lights were not compulsory and has a much lower output than say a current Triumph. Same with our Sporties, current models have far higher output alternators than older models. That drawer you mention is a small proportion of total output.
You may find when pressing the starter button that your lights go out briefly. Some bikes have that arrangement to reduce load on the battery for those first turns of the engine during starting. Unless you want to tinker for the sake of it, I suggest leaving the poor thing alone - you spent more than 12 amps-worth of effort typing your original post!
You may find when pressing the starter button that your lights go out briefly. Some bikes have that arrangement to reduce load on the battery for those first turns of the engine during starting. Unless you want to tinker for the sake of it, I suggest leaving the poor thing alone - you spent more than 12 amps-worth of effort typing your original post!
I've won some bets doing that.
#9
Harley stators are junk and fail frequently. The situation is made worse due to the fact that Harley uses "shunt" type regulators which cause the stator to run continuously at 100% load.
Cycle Electric makes a much better quality stator and a "switching" type regulator that draws stator power only as needed.[/QUOTE]
Yep, ....that's junk all right!
Cycle Electric makes a much better quality stator and a "switching" type regulator that draws stator power only as needed.[/QUOTE]
Yep, ....that's junk all right!
#10