Originally Posted by dave anderson

I went to dealer and he did the Screaming Eagle stage three download which he said will do wonders for a stage 1bike if you know your service tech there at your dealership just ask for the Screaming Eagle stage 3 download it works great with my open air cleaner Rinehart exhaust and Andrews 21 cams my spark plugs have a light coffee brown tint now I have put about 5,000 miles on it couldn't ask for no better

Originally Posted by Ragnar Danneskjöld

Number three is right. The other two are out to lunch.

I would personally recommend a third party turner, though.

Originally Posted by W1ldC4t

Planning on going with a stage 1 upgrade to the 2013 Iron (DK Customs intake, Cycle Shack slip ons) and have been considering paying the all mighty MoCo for a download.

I talked to 3 different dealers in my area, and can't get a consensus from them.

Dealer #1 said "no problem, we do the stage 1 download all the time, works great. By the way, it is designed only for SE products, so if you use something else, YMMV."

Fair enough.

Dealer #2 said, "We don't do them, simple as that. They don't work well in Denver because of our altitude, we have lots of customers come back complaining that the bike doesn't run well after some time. The download 'falls out' and doesn't work very well. We recommend a full dyno tune, by the way, that'll be $850"

Ohhh kayy, now I'm confused.

Dealer #3 said, "You can do the download, or the dyno tune. Download is EPA compliant and will 'richen up' the fuel mixture, but only to the extent allowable by the EPA, which means you'll be back at the factory lean settings, but it will be adjusted for the new intake / exhaust. We have seen lots of people use 3rd party fuel management systems with great luck. We don't service them, or necessarily recommend them, but, I'm telling you, my experience is that most people are fine with either the DL, Dyno tune, or 3rd party products."

Sounds reasonable enough, so I asked about the DL "falling out."

Dealer #3 "never heard of that happening, when you do the DL, we adjust the settings in the ECU, that shouldn't ever change with time if you don't overwrite, or otherwise modify the download."

...hunh...

So, my question for you all: where's the line in the sand here, is Dealer #2 just trying to sell me on the more expensive dyno tune, or, is this "falling out" of the download a real thing, and something I need to be aware of? Any experience with "bad downloads" or something along those lines? Lastly, I know I'm over thinking this, but, should I just go with an aftermarket tuner and forget the dealer? I feel like I got the run-around from all of them...