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Old 10-25-2012, 09:09 AM
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I guess it's a little tricky to remove the stud from the head... i would say some PB Blaster... let soak for 24 hours you could weld a nut to the tip of the stud....A lot of heat and elbow grease...If it's just the nut, i usually check them every 10000-15000 miles...on the FXDP i put grade 8 with grade 8 lock washers, ran it if a while and re-snugged them...
 
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Originally Posted by puckerpuss55
I have had this problem with my 08 Nightster. After about 5000 miles I lost the rear nut(one) then it got replaced by the dealer. Everything was fine until 25,000 miles when I thought I lost the front cylinder stud(one stud). Took it to a private mechanic as my warranty had expired. Found out that the stud actually sheared off. While attempting to replaced the other front stud that one also sheared off. so both needed to be drilled and tapped. The Mechanic said he would use high grade stainless studs and I would never have to worry again. He only charged me 80 bucks. plus he changed the rear nuts that were rusted badly. Now, 600 miles later I have another front stud gone. Must be from really running her hard and hot? I use synthetic oil and stock plugs and ignition. Word of advice: don't ride her too far as that can burn exhaults valves.
I was under the impression that stainless steel is far softer than using a Grade 5 or Grade 8 steel stud. Seems like these nuts falling off are widespread. I have not lost one in 22 years, but I think I'll check them out. Also, if you use stainless steel nuts, be sure to use anti seize compound, or they will "gall" and seize up before you even get them tight. I found out about stainless/stainless by accident, luckily it wasn't something important. Like exhaust studs.

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Old 10-25-2012, 05:42 PM
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cHarley made this recommendation a couple of years ago, I bought these and so far so good. They take an 11/32" 12 point socket.

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I've been through several different remedies to try and stop exhaust flange nuts from coming loose.
First of all, Blue Loctite really doesn't work here, the stud temperatures exceed the published melting point of Blue Loctite.

The one solution I've found if you want to be sure there not going to loosen, is to use ARP aircraft nuts. These are sometimes referred to as Jet or Kay nuts. You can order them (5/16-24 12pt) nuts from Jegs.com. These nuts have elliptical threads which makes them self-locking. The second advantage of these nuts is it's design. The socket size required for the nut is smaller than what would be required for a standard 5/16 nut, which means easier clearance between the socket and cylinder fins.

You can find them HERE for $1.99ea +shipping. Not cheap, but they damn sure won't come loose.
 
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Originally Posted by 1200Cdriver
cHarley made this recommendation a couple of years ago, I bought these and so far so good. They take an 11/32" 12 point socket.

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I've been through several different remedies to try and stop exhaust flange nuts from coming loose.
First of all, Blue Loctite really doesn't work here, the stud temperatures exceed the published melting point of Blue Loctite.

The one solution I've found if you want to be sure there not going to loosen, is to use ARP aircraft nuts. These are sometimes referred to as Jet or Kay nuts. You can order them (5/16-24 12pt) nuts from Jegs.com. These nuts have elliptical threads which makes them self-locking. The second advantage of these nuts is it's design. The socket size required for the nut is smaller than what would be required for a standard 5/16 nut, which means easier clearance between the socket and cylinder fins.

You can find them HERE for $1.99ea +shipping. Not cheap, but they damn sure won't come loose.
Do you know how rust resistant they are? I could see those 12 points getting rusty rounding off real easy if not careful.

Wow, the nut flats are only 1/32 bigger than the stud diameter? That is narrow.

Look like a good solution.

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John, I'll take a look at them and also stick a socket on there to make sure of the size. Thanks, Dave
 
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Old 10-26-2012, 09:00 AM
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"Do you know how rust resistant they are? I could see those 12 points getting rusty rounding off real easy if not careful."

According to this picture they're not very rust resistant. This is on my bike which is kept in an air conditioned and heated shop.
 
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Old 10-28-2012, 08:43 AM
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you are probably correct. finally took it back to my mechanic and he said he was going to use a #8 BOLT. Hope this will solve it as I haven't been out cruising in about three weeks except for the ride to the shop.
 
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