Middle Age Crazy...
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RE: Middle Age Crazy...
Here's a good example of a sport bike accident... 150+ mile an hour T-bone
http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/ne...ash/index.html
#12
RE: Middle Age Crazy...
some more interesting info... granted it's from Europe, but there are no big US studies that are current.
European safety researchers have published what is being termed "the most comprehensive in-depth data currently available for Powered Two Wheelers (PTWs) accidents in Europe." Based on investigations of 921 motorcycle accidents (with 103 fatalities) in France, Germany, Italy, the Netherlands, and Spain, Motorcycle Accidents In Depth Study (MAIDS), provides the sort of comprehensive results rarely seen in motorcycle safety research. Funded by the Association of European Motorcycle Manufacturers (ACEM) with support from the European Commission and other partners, the study employed the widely recognized Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD) methodology for on-scene in-depth motorcycle accident investigations. Employing the OECD methodology not only maintained a consistency between the groups conducting the accident investigations for MAIDS but also allows the data to be compared directly with that of other researchers who use the same system.
The study also collected exposure data, i.e., information about riders who did not crash, which permits researchers to explore how operators or vehicles that crash are different than the control group that does not crash. The MAIDS authors explain it thus: "This exposure information on non-accident involved PTW riders was essential for establishing the significance of the data collected from the accident cases and the identification of potential risk factors in PTW accidents. For example, if 20% of non-accident involved PTWs in the sampling area were red, it would be significant if 60% of those PTWs involved in an accident were reported to be red, suggesting that there is an increased risk of riding a red PTW. On the other hand, if none of the PTWs in the accident sample were red, it would be an interesting finding, needing further study."
Although there are differences in the highway systems, culture, vehicles, and other factors between the European countries where the study was conducted and the United States or other places, we still believe that many of the findings are useful and probably relevant to American riders. Here are some of the findings that might concern all riders and those with an interest in motorcycle safety anywhere.
The Other Guy is still deadly: The object motorcyclists most often collided with were passenger cars. In half of the collision accidents, the driver of the other vehicle was judged to have made the primary error that caused the crash, and he failed to "perceive" the motorcyclist in 70 percent of the two--vehicle collisions. In 37 percent of the the accidents with a partner, it was the motorcyclist who created the problem. As other research has concluded, drivers with motorcycling experience are more likely to see and avoid motorcyclists.
But you don't always need his help: The second most common point of impact was the roadway itself. Yes, some of these non-collision accidents happened as the rider attempted to avoid hitting a car, but plenty of riders managed to crash all by themselves. In rural areas over half the accidents happened without the help of another vehicle. This still leaves plenty of opportunity for serious injuries from curbs and roadside "furniture," especially those barriers intended to corral out-of-control cars. The authors note that collisions with such barriers often results in "serious lower extremity and spinal injuries as well as serious head injuries." Rider inattention was cited in 10.6 percent of the crashes.
It's not the speed. It's the sudden stop: "There were relatively few cases in which excess speed was an issue related to accident causation," The MAIDS authors note. However, the authors point that a speed differential—going either faster or slower than nearby traffic—was a contribu
European safety researchers have published what is being termed "the most comprehensive in-depth data currently available for Powered Two Wheelers (PTWs) accidents in Europe." Based on investigations of 921 motorcycle accidents (with 103 fatalities) in France, Germany, Italy, the Netherlands, and Spain, Motorcycle Accidents In Depth Study (MAIDS), provides the sort of comprehensive results rarely seen in motorcycle safety research. Funded by the Association of European Motorcycle Manufacturers (ACEM) with support from the European Commission and other partners, the study employed the widely recognized Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD) methodology for on-scene in-depth motorcycle accident investigations. Employing the OECD methodology not only maintained a consistency between the groups conducting the accident investigations for MAIDS but also allows the data to be compared directly with that of other researchers who use the same system.
The study also collected exposure data, i.e., information about riders who did not crash, which permits researchers to explore how operators or vehicles that crash are different than the control group that does not crash. The MAIDS authors explain it thus: "This exposure information on non-accident involved PTW riders was essential for establishing the significance of the data collected from the accident cases and the identification of potential risk factors in PTW accidents. For example, if 20% of non-accident involved PTWs in the sampling area were red, it would be significant if 60% of those PTWs involved in an accident were reported to be red, suggesting that there is an increased risk of riding a red PTW. On the other hand, if none of the PTWs in the accident sample were red, it would be an interesting finding, needing further study."
Although there are differences in the highway systems, culture, vehicles, and other factors between the European countries where the study was conducted and the United States or other places, we still believe that many of the findings are useful and probably relevant to American riders. Here are some of the findings that might concern all riders and those with an interest in motorcycle safety anywhere.
The Other Guy is still deadly: The object motorcyclists most often collided with were passenger cars. In half of the collision accidents, the driver of the other vehicle was judged to have made the primary error that caused the crash, and he failed to "perceive" the motorcyclist in 70 percent of the two--vehicle collisions. In 37 percent of the the accidents with a partner, it was the motorcyclist who created the problem. As other research has concluded, drivers with motorcycling experience are more likely to see and avoid motorcyclists.
But you don't always need his help: The second most common point of impact was the roadway itself. Yes, some of these non-collision accidents happened as the rider attempted to avoid hitting a car, but plenty of riders managed to crash all by themselves. In rural areas over half the accidents happened without the help of another vehicle. This still leaves plenty of opportunity for serious injuries from curbs and roadside "furniture," especially those barriers intended to corral out-of-control cars. The authors note that collisions with such barriers often results in "serious lower extremity and spinal injuries as well as serious head injuries." Rider inattention was cited in 10.6 percent of the crashes.
It's not the speed. It's the sudden stop: "There were relatively few cases in which excess speed was an issue related to accident causation," The MAIDS authors note. However, the authors point that a speed differential—going either faster or slower than nearby traffic—was a contribu
#14
RE: Middle Age Crazy...
the craze here in beaverton seems to be guys wearing a baseball cap backwards then they put on a half helmet over that, is this done for a reason? And is this done throughout the US? I noticed one guy doing it about a year ago and within the last year now it seems like every harley rider has a baseball cap on backwards then a half helmet on top of that.Anyone know why? If theres a good enough reason hell ill start doing it too.....
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RE: Middle Age Crazy...
ORIGINAL: saltlick
the craze here in beaverton seems to be guys wearing a baseball cap backwards then they put on a half helmet over that, is this done for a reason? And is this done throughout the US? I noticed one guy doing it about a year ago and within the last year now it seems like every harley rider has a baseball cap on backwards then a half helmet on top of that.Anyone know why? If theres a good enough reason hell ill start doing it too.....
the craze here in beaverton seems to be guys wearing a baseball cap backwards then they put on a half helmet over that, is this done for a reason? And is this done throughout the US? I noticed one guy doing it about a year ago and within the last year now it seems like every harley rider has a baseball cap on backwards then a half helmet on top of that.Anyone know why? If theres a good enough reason hell ill start doing it too.....
Charlie D.
#16
RE: Middle Age Crazy...
the hats under the helmet cuz their going to wear it, when they take the helmet off.... their probaly bald....
I don't want to read stats. I want to ride, you have to think also, how large cars are getting, SUV'S, etc.... think OldFender guy said: Gotta be a little crazy to throw a leg over", we could all fall down the front steps, and kill ourselves....
I don't want to read stats. I want to ride, you have to think also, how large cars are getting, SUV'S, etc.... think OldFender guy said: Gotta be a little crazy to throw a leg over", we could all fall down the front steps, and kill ourselves....
#18
RE: Middle Age Crazy...
ORIGINAL: sealbeachbum
I love the "Bad Boy", but they only made it from 1996-98. I don't understand why it wasn't more popular.
I love the "Bad Boy", but they only made it from 1996-98. I don't understand why it wasn't more popular.
Some people I know that tried it found it to be uncomfortable. I don't recall riding one, so I don't know.
Here is some additional information on the BadBoy.. Lots of go stuff about the bike, opinions, etc..
It's called "Last Impression, Harley Davidson Bad Boy"
http://www.motorcycle.com/mo/mcharley/badboy.html
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RE: Middle Age Crazy...
ORIGINAL: saltlick
the craze here in beaverton seems to be guys wearing a baseball cap backwards then they put on a half helmet over that, is this done for a reason?
the craze here in beaverton seems to be guys wearing a baseball cap backwards then they put on a half helmet over that, is this done for a reason?