Sportster Models 883, 883 Custom, 1200 Custom, 883L, 1200L, 1200S, 1200 Roadster, XR1200, and the Nightster.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Rear Shock Bolt sizes?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
  #11  
Old 08-02-2024 | 08:45 AM
OCSpringer's Avatar
OCSpringer
HDF Community Team
Joined: Aug 2019
Posts: 958
Likes: 796
From: Santa Ana, CA
Community Team
Default

Originally Posted by Rob Roy's Revenge
If the machine is a 2003 Sportster, John is correct with the above part numbers.

3958 is 1/2-20 x 2-1/4" long. It is the left hand bolt.
4743 is 1/2-20 x 2-3/8" long, It is the right hand bolt.

Both are bolts Grade 5.


It does help us greatly if the production year and exact model are quoted when asking a question.
Grade 5! Really? That's surprising to me as these bolts take a lot if abuse and are a critical fastener. I always used grade 8. Now I use ARP bolts on the shocks because they're purdy and strong.
 
  #12  
Old 08-02-2024 | 08:49 AM
John Harper's Avatar
John Harper
HDF Community Team
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 7,066
Likes: 2,050
From: San Diego, CA
Community Team
Default

Originally Posted by OCSpringer
Grade 5! Really? That's surprising to me as these bolts take a lot if abuse and are a critical fastener. I always used grade 8. Now I use ARP bolts on the shocks because they're purdy and strong.
My OG bolts have 3 hash marks, so they are Grade 5.

John
 
The following users liked this post:
Rob Roy's Revenge (08-02-2024)
  #13  
Old 08-02-2024 | 09:02 AM
Goose_NC's Avatar
Goose_NC
Seasoned HDF Member
Veteran: Marine Corp
Joined: Feb 2016
Posts: 6,293
Likes: 4,903
From: NC
Default

Originally Posted by OCSpringer
Grade 5! Really? That's surprising to me as these bolts take a lot if abuse and are a critical fastener. I always used grade 8. Now I use ARP bolts on the shocks because they're purdy and strong.
If I am remembering correctly, grade 5 are better at side loading loads and grade 8 were for straight loads. Grade 5 for suspension and grade 8 for something like head bolts. Going off books I read 50 years ago. Cannot quote the verbiage used in those books (no longer have them) so I am sure someone will correct me if I am incorrect.
 

Last edited by Goose_NC; 08-02-2024 at 09:04 AM.
The following users liked this post:
Rob Roy's Revenge (08-02-2024)
  #14  
Old 08-02-2024 | 09:40 AM
OCSpringer's Avatar
OCSpringer
HDF Community Team
Joined: Aug 2019
Posts: 958
Likes: 796
From: Santa Ana, CA
Community Team
Default

Interesting. I was always told grade 8 was manditory for car suspension. Grade 8 has a much higher tensile strength and due to the hardening process is less likely to bend as oppose to break, but the point of breakage is significantly higher than grade 5. I will say this. My 2003 came with stainless bolts (not stock obviously), which are grade 5, on the lower suspention mounting points and when I changed shocks the left side bolt was bent pretty good when I removed it, which is why I went to grade 8 initially.
 

Last edited by OCSpringer; 08-02-2024 at 09:43 AM.
The following users liked this post:
John Harper (08-02-2024)
  #15  
Old 08-02-2024 | 09:58 AM
FlanCannon88's Avatar
FlanCannon88
Intermediate
Joined: May 2024
Posts: 38
Likes: 10
From: Belcamp MD
Default

Thanks guys,

This bike here is a 1991 XLH1200. It has been thru 3 previous owners before me, 2 of which had not put many miles nor any real maintenance on the bike. It's in fairly decent shape with only 11K miles, just trying to tie up all the loose ends and get it road ready. I've been going over the bike trying to make sure I find all the issues and errors before I get it on the road.

I'll swap the two, hopefully this will give me the correct clearance. I'm going to order new bolts, I hope that those two part numbers are the correct, i'll verify before I buy them.
 
  #16  
Old 08-02-2024 | 10:00 AM
FlanCannon88's Avatar
FlanCannon88
Intermediate
Joined: May 2024
Posts: 38
Likes: 10
From: Belcamp MD
Default

Thanks for the input, would you by chance know where I'd be able to find grade 8 hardware for the rear lower shocks on a 1991 XLH 1200? I'd much rather throw some beefier hardware on it if I have to replace it.
 
  #17  
Old 08-02-2024 | 10:01 AM
FlanCannon88's Avatar
FlanCannon88
Intermediate
Joined: May 2024
Posts: 38
Likes: 10
From: Belcamp MD
Default

Originally Posted by OCSpringer
Interesting. I was always told grade 8 was manditory for car suspension. Grade 8 has a much higher tensile strength and due to the hardening process is less likely to bend as oppose to break, but the point of breakage is significantly higher than grade 5. I will say this. My 2003 came with stainless bolts (not stock obviously), which are grade 5, on the lower suspention mounting points and when I changed shocks the left side bolt was bent pretty good when I removed it, which is why I went to grade 8 initially.
EDIT*

Thanks for the input, would you by chance know where I'd be able to find grade 8 hardware for the rear lower shocks on a 1991 XLH 1200? I'd much rather throw some beefier hardware on it if I have to replace it.
 
  #18  
Old 08-02-2024 | 01:10 PM
Rob Roy's Revenge's Avatar
Rob Roy's Revenge
Road Warrior
Joined: May 2017
Posts: 1,559
Likes: 1,117
From: Scottish Highlands.
Default

Originally Posted by Goose_NC
If I am remembering correctly, grade 5 are better at side loading loads and grade 8 were for straight loads. Grade 5 for suspension and grade 8 for something like head bolts. Going off books I read 50 years ago. Cannot quote the verbiage used in those books (no longer have them) so I am sure someone will correct me if I am incorrect.
You are correct, grade 5 has a greater shear strength than grade 8 which has a higher tensile strength.

Lower shock absorbers require a higher shear strength, that is why H-D specify grade 5 bolts.
 
The following users liked this post:
John Harper (08-02-2024)
  #19  
Old 08-02-2024 | 01:26 PM
Rob Roy's Revenge's Avatar
Rob Roy's Revenge
Road Warrior
Joined: May 2017
Posts: 1,559
Likes: 1,117
From: Scottish Highlands.
Default

Originally Posted by FlanCannon88
Thanks for the input, would you by chance know where I'd be able to find grade 8 hardware for the rear lower shocks on a 1991 XLH 1200? I'd much rather throw some beefier hardware on it if I have to replace it.

Your local hardware store should be able to supply you with bolts for your lower shock mounts.

If your local hardware store doesn't have them, your local H-D dealership should be able to supply them.

The 1991 lower shock bolts are the same part number as those on the 2003 Sportster.
 

Last edited by Rob Roy's Revenge; 08-02-2024 at 05:25 PM.
The following users liked this post:
FlanCannon88 (08-03-2024)
  #20  
Old 08-02-2024 | 05:20 PM
John Harper's Avatar
John Harper
HDF Community Team
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 7,066
Likes: 2,050
From: San Diego, CA
Community Team
Default

Originally Posted by FlanCannon88
EDIT*

Thanks for the input, would you by chance know where I'd be able to find grade 8 hardware for the rear lower shocks on a 1991 XLH 1200? I'd much rather throw some beefier hardware on it if I have to replace it.
Ace Hardware is my go to place for all kinds of bolts and fasteners.

I just measured my 1991, the right side is 2 3/8". The reason it is 1/8" longer than the left is to account for the thickness of the chain guard mount. The other side is 2 1/4".

RRR is completely correct about the specs.

John
 

Last edited by John Harper; 08-02-2024 at 05:27 PM.
The following users liked this post:
Rob Roy's Revenge (08-03-2024)


Quick Reply: Rear Shock Bolt sizes?



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:35 PM.