The seat makes more of a difference than you'd think. My GF and I have the sundowner and we love it. We usually stop every couple of hours, which seems to be about the same for most of the folks on the bigger bikes.

 

thanks for all the input guys i got a sundowner today will let you know who it rides

 

I'm lucky. I'm 5'10, 175lbs and the stock seat is great for me. I've had back to back 10 hour days with no problems.