I don't give a **** what other people do or what they put on their heads.

I ride, every single time, in a full face, race jacket, boots, and gloves.

Doesn't matter if its 40f or 120f, I'm in my gear.

To me, getting on my bike without my gear would be like going onto the battlefield in street clothes. Just like I wouldn't willingly step onto a battlefield without kevlar and a weapon, I would not and do not get on my bike without my gear.

Just my perspective on things, for what its worth, I am against helmet laws.

 

You talk some real crap, ive just read your posts and you really have no idea..I don't particularly like being told what to do by Authority but here in the UK im glad we have to wear Helmets by law..How can you make such a ridiculous and childish statement.Laughable......

 

That would be relevant if the dead motorcyclists, of which you refer, were dead because they wore "full face masks". But since they died because of other reasons, probably not even because of a head injury, what is the meaning of your comment?

Why is it so important to post in this thread? You obviously have nothing constructive to offer.

 

I think he's just saying that riding is dangerous no matter what you're wearing. Which is very true.

I own both 3/4 and a full face. I find myself wanting to wear the full face more just because wind flow is decent, the field of view is very good, and the protection is better (even just from bugs).

And I don't feel even a tiny bit strange being on my Harley in a full face. I prefer it.

 

You don't get that choice. Hit your head with a hammer, then do it with a helmet. Do it 5 times in different spots with and without a helmet. Enough said.

Extremely rare circumstance, if even legitimate. That's like saying seatbelts can cause fatal internal injuries so you don't wear them.

 

I understand that, and agree. I just don't understand why someone that displays such fear keeps posting about something he doesn't really seem to understand.

 

I wear a helmet, but I don;t think there should be a law for it. Jerry Seinfeld sums it up best -

"There are many things you can point to as proof that the human is not smart. But my personal favorite would have to be that we needed to invent the helmet. What was happening, apparently, was that we were involved in a lot of activities that were cracking our heads. We chose not to avoid doing those activities but, instead, to come up with some sort of device to help us enjoy our head-cracking lifestyles. And even that didn't work because not enough people were wearing them so we had to come up with the helmet law. Which is even stupider, the idea behind the helmet law being to preserve a brain whose judgment is so poor, it does not even try to avoid the cracking of the head it's in."

 

I wear a helmet, but I don;t think there should be a law for it. Jerry Seinfeld sums it up best -

"There are many things you can point to as proof that the human is not smart. But my personal favorite would have to be that we needed to invent the helmet. What was happening, apparently, was that we were involved in a lot of activities that were cracking our heads. We chose not to avoid doing those activities but, instead, to come up with some sort of device to help us enjoy our head-cracking lifestyles. And even that didn't work because not enough people were wearing them so we had to come up with the helmet law. Which is even stupider, the idea behind the helmet law being to preserve a brain whose judgment is so poor, it does not even try to avoid the cracking of the head it's in."

 

Actually, what bothers me and mostly effect naive and inexperienced riders, is people who have a helmet on but don't wear it properly.

How often do you see some young women (mostly/on a scooter) wearing a helmet at the back of the head leaving the whole of their brow, where they are going to hit most, completely unprotected?

He might be but it was a little insensitive to make such a point to a father whose son had taken a very serious hit.

Time and place ...
You just made me realise that when I had a sports bike I wore an open face and now on a Harley, I wear a full face ... I must just be contrary by nature!

Death would be too sweet, it's pain I don't really like; and even less the idea of being trapped inside an immobile body ... which in 9 cases out of 10, I guess would have little to do with helmets and more to do with unprotectable neck and back injuries.

When I was young I was strong and flexible and could take a fall. I'm pretty sure now if I fell, I'd twist and break and it's that which keeps me slowed down, not what's on or not on my head. I've watched a few videos of older guys falling on Youtube and, jeez, they fall hard.

I'd like the option to be able to, say, ride without one under 30 mph ... round to the shops or along some seaside road etc ... but, unfortunately, a very high percentage of accidents happen locally and at city speeds.

It is perfectly safe to ride without a helmet at all speeds ... as long as you don't have that accident. How much does society have to interfere in order to protect either it's own unlucky or idiot factor ... or it's own costs and services.

There definitely is a small element within bureaucracies and LE which take pleasure from spoiling others fun that they are not capable of ... but most of the argument comes down to financial costs. Certainly it did in the UK. Too many young people were having too many accidents which, due to free healthcare and a great National Health Service, the State caught the tab for. For no benefit to it.

However, even before that time, guys did wear voluntarily depending on the weather. A helmet was protection from the cold.

Two accident statistic stands out for me ... a) 48% of crashes between motorcycles and cars were the result of the car driver failing to look properly, and b) are 40 times more likely to be killed than car drivers. Solo accidents without involvement of other vehicles, account for only a very small proportion of total accidents ... therefore 'riding' is not the problem. The helmet is a defence position.

80% of motorcyclists killed as a result of road accidents suffer major head injuries. Helmets reduce the risk of fatal head injury by around 50%.

The Gladiator analogy is a good one. They used to say, "a despatch rider in London had the same life expectancy as a Spitfire pilot in WWII" ... doing little more than delivering artwork for ad agencies etc.

 

No it really wouldn't. I'm saying the RISK is still there. There is NO NEED to ride a bike. It's much "safer" to be in a a car or truck than on 2 wheels. If there is NO NEED than why do it?