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          Old 07-04-2013 | 12:04 AM
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          Originally Posted by Apaolo

          So my question is, do I look douchey riding around with a full face helmet and gloves and nothing else?

          Please at least wear pants.
           
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          Old 07-04-2013 | 12:48 PM
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          Originally Posted by akhdrider
          I never wear a helmet as I just do not feel right about riding with one on.. I feel like a bubble head... feel constrained..

          I like the feel of the air on my head... it cools me off...
          BUT... that is ME...

          I say ride how ever you want!

          Most deaths on motorcycles come from
          1. The person behind the rider running into the rider who has stopped at a traffic signal or a stop sign.
          2. A driver of a car or truck turns directly across a bike riders path and the biker runs directly into the vehicle.

          Many studies have shown helmets save lives.
          But
          If You or I want to take the chance and we are grown.. so be it!
          PERSONAL CHOICE rules!
          I don't mean to debate your PERSONAL CHOICE, just add my thoughts.

          Yesterday it was well over a 100 degrees here, humidity was 14% and I was sweating profusely. I got on my scooter, put on my FF helmet(with vents), and went for a ride. As soon as I began moving, I could feel air on my head... it cooled me off.

          At long stoplights, a helmet is hot. But after moving, air and cooling again. Alaska may be different, but here in the desert it is very hot just having the sun bake your head. A helmet prevents that.

          My best advice is this, don't give 'death' a second thought. It has no importance. When someone dies, their problems are over. Of course they don't know it. People that receive head(brain) injuries, and aren't lucky enough to die instantly, have it far worse.

          Their head injury, depending on it's severity, is a/the main focus of their life. Every second for the rest of their life. And perhaps the life of the brain damaged ex-rider's caregiver(s).

          PERSONAL CHOICE is great! Make that choice carefully.

          Ron
           

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          Old 07-04-2013 | 01:22 PM
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          When I pay this one off I'll sell it if I can't wear my fullface helmet.

           
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          Old 07-04-2013 | 02:29 PM
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          Originally Posted by rjg883c
          I don't mean to debate your PERSONAL CHOICE, just add my thoughts.

          Yesterday it was well over a 100 degrees here, humidity was 14% and I was sweating profusely. I got on my scooter, put on my FF helmet(with vents), and went for a ride. As soon as I began moving, I could feel air on my head... it cooled me off.

          At long stoplights, a helmet is hot. But after moving, air and cooling again. Alaska may be different, but here in the desert it is very hot just having the sun bake your head. A helmet prevents that.

          My best advice is this, don't give 'death' a second thought. It has no importance. When someone dies, their problems are over. Of course they don't know it. People that receive head(brain) injuries, and aren't lucky enough to die instantly, have it far worse.

          Their head injury, depending on it's severity, is a/the main focus of their life. Every second for the rest of their life. And perhaps the life of the brain damaged ex-rider's caregiver(s).

          PERSONAL CHOICE is great! Make that choice carefully.

          Ron
          Freedom, Freedom, What's that?

          Yall have no freedoms and you have no idea what it is. Bound by taxes, regulations and the like, wake up and see that since the 70's you've only had regulations running your lives!
          Your personal freedoms are not yours, this is dictated to you by both media and regulations on what helmet you can buy etc, and insurance, man what a scam, right up there with Social InSecurity, WTP?

          And here we are talking about real men and helmets, HA HA HA.
           
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          Old 07-04-2013 | 03:03 PM
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          Originally Posted by Bkellyusa
          XL-Power,

          You sound pretty committed to wearing safety gear so I am sure it wouldn't make any difference but are there mandatory helmet laws in Norway?

          It's sort of surprising to see someone from Europe so committed to riding Harley's. When I was there on a long motorcycle trip I rented a Harley in Germany that was so de-tuned I thought it was only running on one cylinder. The sound was also absolutely anemic compared to the fire breathing monsters we ride in the U.S. I was so alarmed that I told the dealer that his bike needed fixing before I could rent it. He just laughed and told me that they were all like that in Europe. No matter where I went in Europe I heard the same story for the next three three weeks. Despite that I had a great time and would love to go back. Sorry to say I didn't make it to Norway. I fell in love with Switzerland though.

          Good luck!
          Most Dutch HD's I know, including mine, are tuned, make a lot of noise and ride great. Rentals otoh, well, what can I say? Would Avis or Herz tune their cars? No sir!
           
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          Old 07-04-2013 | 03:58 PM
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          XL-Power.

          That's good since a large part of owning a Harley is tuning them up.

          I will say thought that I never saw a single Harley in the seven countries I was in with an aftermarket carburetor or pipes and "straight pipes" would have been unthinkable. It didn't matter if it was privately owned or a brand new factory bike. That wouldn't be so terrible if the level of tuning on a new bike wasn't so deplorable to begin with.

          In truth, that stuff is not truly legal in the U.S. either but no one here enforces those laws on Harley's. As it is even some of the police have a Harley's at home in their garages with aftermarket pipes and big carburetors and you can buy all of that stuff right over the counter at the same dealer who sold you the new, government regulated bike. In fact, I think very few people drive home a stock, factory built bike anymore and I can't imagine anything you buy used is stock.

          Anyhow, good luck with your bike.
           
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          Old 07-04-2013 | 05:18 PM
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          Originally Posted by Bkellyusa
          XL-Power,

          You sound pretty committed to wearing safety gear so I am sure it wouldn't make any difference but are there mandatory helmet laws in Norway?

          It's sort of surprising to see someone from Europe so committed to riding Harley's. When I was there on a long motorcycle trip I rented a Harley in Germany that was so de-tuned I thought it was only running on one cylinder. The sound was also absolutely anemic compared to the fire breathing monsters we ride in the U.S. I was so alarmed that I told the dealer that his bike needed fixing before I could rent it. He just laughed and told me that they were all like that in Europe. No matter where I went in Europe I heard the same story for the next three three weeks. Despite that I had a great time and would love to go back. Sorry to say I didn't make it to Norway. I fell in love with Switzerland though.

          Good luck!
          It's mandatory to wear a CE approved helmet in all EU and Schengen countries(Norway are comitted to Schengen).

          Besides that its for me a rule I thought as a kid, if there is any safety gear for any activity, there must be anyone's hard learned lesson as the reason, so my dad told me when i was young and I agree :-) I haven't forgot to use seat belt once in 25 years.
          It's a really cheap life insurance.

          My 07 883-1250 Custom have a D&D bobcat, Forcewinder AC - PowerVision and AutoTune WB O2 sensors, I'm searching hard for a set of 1200 heads. Well we have decibel regulations and we take them seriously kinda if we are careful on the throttle it's usually no problem, if DMV have a road side control it's a problem as we have to change to stock exhaust and show bike to DMV for a decibel test..

          It seems strange that a bike are detuned in EU, even more a rental bike. We have some limitations for younger bikers 18-20 that have a Hp limit. You can rent a stock busa or V-Rod or 883 no problem as far as I know.

          Switzerland I haven't visited yet it seems very nice with great nature and people, lots of great roads there and the alps.. It is said that Norway have places very similar to Switzerland - not the great roads thou as the roads in Norway has been neglected for years so it could easily be bumpy and scary some places. I always hear that tourist that have traveled around will come back, in summertime of course :-) we have alps fjords mountains scenic nature for hours after hours and you meet Harley's all over from north to south, I live in the west coast city Bergen - with genuine viking blood in my vains
          You would never regret two three weeks on a Harley in Norway
           
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          Old 07-04-2013 | 05:53 PM
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          Originally Posted by akhdrider
          All my life I wanted a Harley.
          At first, I was too busy paying bills and such and did not have the money to get one..
          Then, along came kids and omg, totally broke all the time giving them all they wanted and needed....
          Finally, got one last year.
          Noting most everyone I see on a Harley wears a black leather jacket!
          lol
          I mean young business men and old retired gentlemen go into Harley shop and buy all new black Harley gear and go out to ride... all look the same..

          But me, I too have black leather riding gear.. but what do I pick up when I go to ride.. well, it varies.. some days just a tee shirt, and I have many of them.. some days a long sleeve shirt.. and black jeans.. some days a black or brown leather jacket, tee shirt and either blue or brown jeans...

          I never wear a helmet as I just do not feel right about riding with one on.. I feel like a bubble head... feel constrained..

          I like the feel of the air on my head... it cools me off...
          BUT... that is ME...

          I say ride how ever you want!

          Most deaths on motorcycles come from
          1. The person behind the rider running into the rider who has stopped at a traffic signal or a stop sign.
          2. A driver of a car or truck turns directly across a bike riders path and the biker runs directly into the vehicle.

          Many studies have shown helmets save lives.
          But
          If You or I want to take the chance and we are grown.. so be it!
          PERSONAL CHOICE rules!

          Live life as YOU want to live it.. do not let anyone put you down for how you want to look!
          Be happy how YOU want to be!

          Just my thoughts!
          As I speak I'm healing up after a motorcycle accident resulted in broken femur and some twisted stuff in my right hand and thumb is useless, I'm going to be ~100% as before within a year or so doc told me.
          I don't really care so much about many things no more, I'm so friggin grateful that I can see my three kids and wife knowing that I will be healed and same dad as I was.
          I thought my helmet was untouched and I was lucky got away with only two Olmed bolts in my hip joint and a weird thumb, I had the time to look closer to my helmet a Bandit helmet and discovered that it was fractured in the front of the bow in front of my face and a almost invisible crack from forehead and down to right ear.
          This accident now after investigation I cleared and have no guilt, I couldn't done anything different and all charges are now on the other part. It doesn't matter and I really don't care, I have top insurance and get my bike fixed/rebuilt it wouldn't cost me a dime. I don't care to much about that either because I get to live a normal life again with time and my family don't need to push dad in a wheelchair or visit a vegetative dad once a week or have to choose wether to pull the plug or not - all because that full face helmet.
          A specialist in head trauma at my hospital told me that he was certain that if I had a half helmet or a smaller helmet I would have been in great trouble as the damages on my helmet told him that I had hit something with my helmet so perfect that the helmet just got "fractured" from impact and those two places would have created severe head trauma with anything other than a good quality full face helmet.

          I agree with you in one thing akhrider, personal choices rules when you don't consider or care about your own kids, wife, parents those who love you even after an accident.

          I can't or wouldn't judge you, that I leave to you and your family.
           
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          Old 07-04-2013 | 06:57 PM
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          XL-Power:

          Eloquently expressed to someone who may have already fallen on his head a couple of times -
           
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          Old 07-05-2013 | 01:05 AM
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          Originally Posted by DavidStiebel
          And here we are talking about real men and helmets, HA HA HA.
          I didn't really understand the point you were trying to make. So I will only offer this:

          Good times, bad times, government regulation/oppression, everything in life actually, is better without a head(brain) injury.
           


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