That is an amazing thing...came out a few years ago. I said if I ever do get another FF it WILL have that

 

I'll ask my wife if you want but I think that in TNCC training, they do mention that they would rather not have amateurs (which the EMT are NOT) move people unless they have to because there are procedures and it isn't simply YANK. You can do more harm than good. I believe they have procedures to stabilize the neck before they YANK, assuming they do.

 

You could certainly argue a chin shield in the modular is better than nothing, but the helmet itself is only DOT, none I know of pass SNELL.

+1. GET THIS:

When going to the local dragstrip (Infineon in NorCal) or any other, and I think NHRA rules, if your car runs 13.99 or faster, a fairly recent SNELL helmet is REQUIRED. DOT doesn't cut it. Bikes, same thing. If I'm not mistaken, a M2000 Snell is too old now, has to be M2005 or M2010.

In ANY race series, it must be SNELL or FIA. DOT isn't sufficient.

Even high-school level personnel on the scene of H.S. football games know this too.

 

An interesting read that contains some info on DOT vs. Snell. I think it originally came out in 2008, influencing the adjustment of Snell in 2010:
http://www.westcoastweasels.com/arch...he_Lid_Off.pdf
or
http://www.americanrider.com/output.cfm?id=1022077
There's more, these are just two examples. I'm comfortable with a DOT rated lid for street riding but everyone has to make their own decisions.

 

DOT is self tested. The manufacturer simply states their helmet will pass the DOT requirements. DOT does do random followup testing though to ensure manufacturers are not lying but they do not test every size of every model. Snell does as does Sharp and I believe ECE. This is not to say all DOT helmets are inferior, just that the DOT standards are less demanding

Also like any helmet standard the DOT standard has undergone revisions and improvements every few years as more is known about head injuries and more research is done. The DOT standard of today specifies a much safer helmet than say the DOT standard of the 1970's. In a legal loop hole many manufacturers of 1/2 helmets are stamping their helmets DOT approved because they meet the much less demanding DOT requirements from the 1970's but do not the meet the current DOT requirements. Starting in 2012 all helmets must have the version of the DOT requirements the helmet adheres to stamped on the outside of the helmet under the DOT logo.

 

I was thinking about this the other day when I was riding in the sudden downpour. I was miles from home and wearing my full face helmet. I prefer my 1/2 helmet but I am tired of my face taking the rain/bugs full on. On the way home we went through a heavily wooded area. The dragon fly's were everywhere and I was glad to have my full helmet. I wear what I want either the half or the full, depending how I feel that day.

 

Pretty much yes I would think.

 

Wear what ever you want, don't worry about what any one else says. I guess that goes out to the clown that wears flip flops and a tank top as well.

 

It's been about 30 years I've been riding (5th Hog, 2nd FLHTCU), and as far as I remember, no one ever told me how to dress, or been joking about whatever helmet I had on my head.
I ususally ride my tourer with an open face 1/2 helmet, but obviously full face does offer the best protection, and I would certainly approve of anyone having a full face helmet if he/she feels comfortable with it.
Alternative is Schuberth J1 open face 3/4 with chin bar...
If we leave it to the others to decide how we ride, we may all wear full metal combi very soon...
Ride free and stay safe !

 

Just finished up a 2,800 mile trip thru West Virginia, Northern Virginia, North Carolina, Tennessee driving a lot on the BRP, but not exclusively. Anyway, the group of us got caught in some rain in the mountains for an hour at a time that felt like someone was pouring buckets on your head, and made 5pm look black as midnight. For the trip I brought both my half helmet and full face helmet. It was very nice to have the full face for this kind of rain. We did not have the luxury of pulling over for a few hours to wait the storm out. The full face allowed me to focus on seeing the road, others in the group, and other vehicles. If your guy would have told me that "real Harley owners don't wear FF helmets" I would have laughed in his face. Also, it was nice to have the full face on the way home for the 12+ hours on I-75.

There is no substitute for having the right gear. Bottom line is that it's your as* on the bike. Do what you want and don't listen to others. I think you'll see that the Harley owners actually take joy in doing things that others have issues with.