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Considering whether or not to wear a full face helmet? There is a lot of different variations from full face to no helmet. Choose the Proper Protective Equipment (PPE) that makes you feel comfortable. Some factors to consider:
Read the full discussion below to find out what forum members are wearing.
Read the full discussion below to find out what forum members are wearing.
Real Harley owners dont wear full face helmets?
#1071
I rode in the Nevada desert in early July and didn't have trouble with heat. And I can ride for 16 hours without issues of neck stress or fatigue.
#1073
Exactly, even if you don't have aerodynamic drag from hair, you have exposed skin and dehydrate more rapidly. Not to mention aging the skin with wind and sun.
#1074
It is actually cooler, at least the head/face is, then standing still in direct sunlight.
#1075
You defy your own logic wearing gear but hardly ever a helmet. Like the judgement of the "majority" in Ohio somehow make it smart and right? What is so funny about the hammer analogy. Tell you what, lets both face-plant on concrete, then try to explain why no helmet is better. Or, make it more fun, go into a turn on a slick surface and see who walks away after their head bounces off the concrete.
And isn't that report old, not taking into account helmet type, age and legality, and doesn't take into consideration accidents where the rider had no or lesser head injuries due to the helmet? And yes, I'll take a baseball to a head or slide at 80mph in leathers and a FF.
How many motorcyclists hit walls? Not very many. And somehow a motorcyclist will die if they wear a helmet or not? False. And by the way, you're far safer with a helmet or a seatbelt. I think you misinterpreted the report conclusions.
You're using NASCAR as a situational aware example? That is laughable. Watch F1, USC or motorcycle racing and the numerous passing attempts, braking points, hitting the apexes and blocking maneuvers per lap and then try to make a claim about situational awareness. That is a major fallacy. A tiny single-digit percentage of blocked peripheral vision has no negative effect on a rider's safety that actually turns his head and uses the mirrors.
Oh, speaking of racing risks. Controlled environment & known surface, good sight lines, no curbs, trees, intersections, distracted drivers, opposing traffic, etc. etc.
And isn't that report old, not taking into account helmet type, age and legality, and doesn't take into consideration accidents where the rider had no or lesser head injuries due to the helmet? And yes, I'll take a baseball to a head or slide at 80mph in leathers and a FF.
How many motorcyclists hit walls? Not very many. And somehow a motorcyclist will die if they wear a helmet or not? False. And by the way, you're far safer with a helmet or a seatbelt. I think you misinterpreted the report conclusions.
You're using NASCAR as a situational aware example? That is laughable. Watch F1, USC or motorcycle racing and the numerous passing attempts, braking points, hitting the apexes and blocking maneuvers per lap and then try to make a claim about situational awareness. That is a major fallacy. A tiny single-digit percentage of blocked peripheral vision has no negative effect on a rider's safety that actually turns his head and uses the mirrors.
Oh, speaking of racing risks. Controlled environment & known surface, good sight lines, no curbs, trees, intersections, distracted drivers, opposing traffic, etc. etc.
Your best piece of safety equipment is what's between your ears and not what you wear. 50 percent of all motorcycle fatalities are drunk riders. I don't drink and ride but I drink when I'm not riding which is a health risk. The second leading cause is speeding? Do you ever break the speed limit? I do most certainly. With that being said very very few bikers die from motorcycle accidents way less than 1% of all registered riders in the US. Its actually more like .5% of 1 percent. Yeah near bank interest rates.
I'm not a racer. I love to feel the wind in my face and the freedom to choose to ride however I see fit. Today I left for work at 35F I put my FF helmet on to keep my head warm and for that reason alone. I might as well drove the Jeep. Most weekend warriors which make up the majority of HD riders don't drive a bike every day like I do. I don't drive a cage unless I have absolutely no choice from spring till winter.
I'm not concerned with how long i'm going to live. As long as I wake up every day and do what I want then well to me that's all that matters if in fact today is my last day then so be it. I've been riding for over 40 years. I might slip in the shower, hit my head and die one day. Oh my where was my shower helmet. Debate over.
#1076
Do you ride behind a windshield? Do you ride without a windshield in winds 25-35mph head on ever? On a quiet wind free day a FF helmet is pretty smooth aerodynamically. When i'm riding in 30 mph and gusting head winds with no windshield my head is getting blown all over. When you are in city traffic above 80F or above a FF helmet is totally miserable. With that being said who rides a freaking bike for 16 hours a day? I ride with goggles and a windshield.
#1078
I'll make it short and sweet for you as you seem to think freaking helmets make a rider invincible. Your going to die someday. You don't know what's going to do you in but its going to be something. I got hit by a fly over puck in the head at a professional hockey game. Had the puck hit two inches lower I would be dead. I've been hit by two cars and lived. I've wrecked dirt bikes many times and lived. I did wear a FF on a motorcross bike ie high risk riding.Hell I've wiped out doing stupid stuff as a child on bicycles hit my head on the concrete and ice during winter and lived. If you were told tomorrow that you had a week to live would a freaking helmet really matter? Safety gear of course is better than none but its not in most instances a game breaker but you know what we are all going to die someday. Until that freaking day happens I'm going to live how I choose undefined by what the status quo may think.
Your best piece of safety equipment is what's between your ears and not what you wear. 50 percent of all motorcycle fatalities are drunk riders. I don't drink and ride but I drink when I'm not riding which is a health risk. The second leading cause is speeding? Do you ever break the speed limit? I do most certainly. With that being said very very few bikers die from motorcycle accidents way less than 1% of all registered riders in the US. Its actually more like .5% of 1 percent. Yeah near bank interest rates.
I'm not a racer. I love to feel the wind in my face and the freedom to choose to ride however I see fit. Today I left for work at 35F I put my FF helmet on to keep my head warm and for that reason alone. I might as well drove the Jeep. Most weekend warriors which make up the majority of HD riders don't drive a bike every day like I do. I don't drive a cage unless I have absolutely no choice from spring till winter.
I'm not concerned with how long i'm going to live. As long as I wake up every day and do what I want then well to me that's all that matters if in fact today is my last day then so be it. I've been riding for over 40 years. I might slip in the shower, hit my head and die one day. Oh my where was my shower helmet. Debate over.
Your best piece of safety equipment is what's between your ears and not what you wear. 50 percent of all motorcycle fatalities are drunk riders. I don't drink and ride but I drink when I'm not riding which is a health risk. The second leading cause is speeding? Do you ever break the speed limit? I do most certainly. With that being said very very few bikers die from motorcycle accidents way less than 1% of all registered riders in the US. Its actually more like .5% of 1 percent. Yeah near bank interest rates.
I'm not a racer. I love to feel the wind in my face and the freedom to choose to ride however I see fit. Today I left for work at 35F I put my FF helmet on to keep my head warm and for that reason alone. I might as well drove the Jeep. Most weekend warriors which make up the majority of HD riders don't drive a bike every day like I do. I don't drive a cage unless I have absolutely no choice from spring till winter.
I'm not concerned with how long i'm going to live. As long as I wake up every day and do what I want then well to me that's all that matters if in fact today is my last day then so be it. I've been riding for over 40 years. I might slip in the shower, hit my head and die one day. Oh my where was my shower helmet. Debate over.
Motorcyclists are 35 times more likely to experience a deadly accident on the road than those in passenger cars.
In 2006, 88,000 motorcyclists were injured in highway accidents alone.
In 2006, 4,810 motorcyclists were killed in road accidents.
11 percent of all roadway accidents that occur in the United States involve motorcycles.
Head injury is the leading cause of death in motorcycle crashes.
A motorcyclist not wearing a helmet is 40 percent more likely to die of a head injury than one who wears a helmet.
A motorcyclist not wearing a helmet is 15 percent more likely to suffer a nonfatal injury than one who wears a helmet. (I disagree with this one. I bet it is much higher due to helmet-wearing riders having accidents that are unreported such as a solo rider in a turn or slick surface).
It is estimated that helmets reduce the likelihood of a crash fatality by 37 percent.
Last edited by Deuuuce; 05-06-2014 at 07:12 PM.
#1079
I made my point. I only disagree with your first sentence and a few others better stated from one source:
Motorcyclists are 35 times more likely to experience a deadly accident on the road than those in passenger cars.
In 2006, 88,000 motorcyclists were injured in highway accidents alone.
In 2006, 4,810 motorcyclists were killed in road accidents.
11 percent of all roadway accidents that occur in the United States involve motorcycles.
Head injury is the leading cause of death in motorcycle crashes.
A motorcyclist not wearing a helmet is 40 percent more likely to die of a head injury than one who wears a helmet.
A motorcyclist not wearing a helmet is 15 percent more likely to suffer a nonfatal injury than one who wears a helmet. (I disagree with this one. I bet it is much higher due to helmet-wearing riders having accidents that are unreported such as a solo rider in a turn or slick surface).
It is estimated that helmets reduce the likelihood of a crash fatality by 37 percent.
Motorcyclists are 35 times more likely to experience a deadly accident on the road than those in passenger cars.
In 2006, 88,000 motorcyclists were injured in highway accidents alone.
In 2006, 4,810 motorcyclists were killed in road accidents.
11 percent of all roadway accidents that occur in the United States involve motorcycles.
Head injury is the leading cause of death in motorcycle crashes.
A motorcyclist not wearing a helmet is 40 percent more likely to die of a head injury than one who wears a helmet.
A motorcyclist not wearing a helmet is 15 percent more likely to suffer a nonfatal injury than one who wears a helmet. (I disagree with this one. I bet it is much higher due to helmet-wearing riders having accidents that are unreported such as a solo rider in a turn or slick surface).
It is estimated that helmets reduce the likelihood of a crash fatality by 37 percent.
I rode a bicycle my entire childhood without a helmet, I rode a moped without a helmet, I even rode my dirt bikes non aggressively without a helmet and I mostly ride my motorcycle without a helmet. Your more likely to die in your cage then you are your motorcycle accident if you have any competency at all simply because of the law of averages.. So if you like riding with a bubble on your head more power to you. The majority of MC riders don't like wearing anything more than a 1/2 shell. That's the thing I ride because I love to. My biggest fallacy is wasting time reading forums like this that don't have any bearing on my life expectancy at all whether I wear or not.. 99.9 percent of riders don't waste time in forums like this like I do they just ride. Ride safe!