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Considering whether or not to wear a full face helmet? There is a lot of different variations from full face to no helmet. Choose the Proper Protective Equipment (PPE) that makes you feel comfortable. Some factors to consider:
Read the full discussion below to find out what forum members are wearing.
Read the full discussion below to find out what forum members are wearing.
Real Harley owners dont wear full face helmets?
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#1062
I prefer an open face, with shades, because I CAN SNEEZE without mucking up my face shield.... or wipe my nose when it's cold outside, or speak to whomever is next to me. Cold weather it's baklava time or scarf (but get any nose juice on a scarf or baklava and it will freeze).
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#1066
When I was 15 I was hit by a car. Eyewitness reports that I flew 12-14 feet up in the air coming down on my head. I suffered a hairline skull fracture with no brain injury. Sure I could of broke my neck or even died but I didn't.
I don't consider my riding style high risk and therefore I wear a helmet very seldom. If I was dirt biking like I used to I would of course go ATGATT. The motorcycle riding experience is not the same wearing a helmet vs not wearing one
Do you dress for the heart attack your building towards eating fast food? Do you drink more than they recommend? I do. Do you waste a moment of your life worrying about how long your going to live. If you ride in fear of death then maybe you shouldn't ride at all. That's not what living is about. It's about doing what you enjoy if only for a day.
I'd be much safer driving my Jeep if I wore a helmet or even my forklift at work. People who don't wear a helmet are far more cautious riders. I can hear better without a helmet. My ability to scan my surroundings is far superior without a helmet. Heat is a distraction caused by helmets in hot weather. My head is far more aerodynamic than that bulky helmets we sometimes choose to wear. Helmets cause neck stress and fatigue.
Its without a doubt more of a pleasure riding without a helmet regardless of risk outside of inclement weather. The fact remains there is nothing you do that can guarantee your survival in a motorcycle accident and that's a fact. There is no piece of safety equipment that will save you if your time is up.
Everybody rationalizes what they consider acceptable risk in life and that's just fine. Everybody likes the freedom to choose even when it comes to wearing a helmet or not wearing one. For me its a better ride without.
I don't consider my riding style high risk and therefore I wear a helmet very seldom. If I was dirt biking like I used to I would of course go ATGATT. The motorcycle riding experience is not the same wearing a helmet vs not wearing one
Do you dress for the heart attack your building towards eating fast food? Do you drink more than they recommend? I do. Do you waste a moment of your life worrying about how long your going to live. If you ride in fear of death then maybe you shouldn't ride at all. That's not what living is about. It's about doing what you enjoy if only for a day.
I'd be much safer driving my Jeep if I wore a helmet or even my forklift at work. People who don't wear a helmet are far more cautious riders. I can hear better without a helmet. My ability to scan my surroundings is far superior without a helmet. Heat is a distraction caused by helmets in hot weather. My head is far more aerodynamic than that bulky helmets we sometimes choose to wear. Helmets cause neck stress and fatigue.
Its without a doubt more of a pleasure riding without a helmet regardless of risk outside of inclement weather. The fact remains there is nothing you do that can guarantee your survival in a motorcycle accident and that's a fact. There is no piece of safety equipment that will save you if your time is up.
Everybody rationalizes what they consider acceptable risk in life and that's just fine. Everybody likes the freedom to choose even when it comes to wearing a helmet or not wearing one. For me its a better ride without.
#1067
When I was 15 I was hit by a car. Eyewitness reports that I flew 12-14 feet up in the air coming down on my head. I suffered a hairline skull fracture with no brain injury. Sure I could of broke my neck or even died but I didn't. I don't consider my riding style high risk and therefore I wear a helmet very seldom. If I was dirt biking like I used to I would of course go ATGATT. The motorcycle riding experience is not the same wearing a helmet vs not wearing one Do you dress for the heart attack your building towards eating fast food? Do you drink more than they recommend? I do. Do you waste a moment of your life worrying about how long your going to live. If you ride in fear of death then maybe you shouldn't ride at all. That's not what living is about. It's about doing what you enjoy if only for a day. I'd be much safer driving my Jeep if I wore a helmet or even my forklift at work. People who don't wear a helmet are far more cautious riders. I can hear better without a helmet. My ability to scan my surroundings is far superior without a helmet. Heat is a distraction caused by helmets in hot weather. My head is far more aerodynamic than that bulky helmets we sometimes choose to wear. Helmets cause neck stress and fatigue. Its without a doubt more of a pleasure riding without a helmet regardless of risk outside of inclement weather. The fact remains there is nothing you do that can guarantee your survival in a motorcycle accident and that's a fact. There is no piece of safety equipment that will save you if your time is up. Everybody rationalizes what they consider acceptable risk in life and that's just fine. Everybody likes the freedom to choose even when it comes to wearing a helmet or not wearing one. For me its a better ride without.
Last edited by orangehotrod; 05-04-2014 at 07:43 PM.
#1068
People who don't wear a helmet are far more cautious riders. I can hear better without a helmet. My ability to scan my surroundings is far superior without a helmet. Heat is a distraction caused by helmets in hot weather. My head is far more aerodynamic than that bulky helmets we sometimes choose to wear. Helmets cause neck stress and fatigue.
Do you wear a seatbelt? Your driving experience would be better if your jeep didn't have a windshield.
Hit yourself with a hammer on the head a few times then talk to us about helmets. I guess everyone who races isn't getting the full experience and all those other "advantages" without.
#1069
Wrong, hardly, BS, wrong, probably wrong and insignificant.
Do you wear a seatbelt? Your driving experience would be better if your jeep didn't have a windshield.
Hit yourself with a hammer on the head a few times then talk to us about helmets. I guess everyone who races isn't getting the full experience and all those other "advantages" without.
Do you wear a seatbelt? Your driving experience would be better if your jeep didn't have a windshield.
Hit yourself with a hammer on the head a few times then talk to us about helmets. I guess everyone who races isn't getting the full experience and all those other "advantages" without.
There is also no promise if your involved in a serious accident that they will. I'm happy to be an Ohio resident where we are given freedom of choice. Less than 1% of the bikers I see wear. 99% of riders here are Harley riders as well.
I always wear jeans, a textile riding jacket, gloves and Steel toed logger boots, goggles or safety glasses when I ride and occasionally even a 1/2 helmet in colder weather.. None of those would be worth a damn if hit a wall. Neither would a helmet. That's the thing with accidents you don't get to choose what kind of accident your going to be involved in. You should read the Hurt Report it breaks down the leading causes of motorcycle fatalities quite nicely. Another fact. Riders that were involved in fatal motorcycle accidents would of died with or without helmets.
With that being said your only slightly safer riding a motorcycle wearing a helmet. Just like your only slightly safer wearing a seatbelt while driving a car. It's all about what you consider acceptable risk to an otherwise risking behavior be it drinking, riding or nailing the neighbors daughter.
Oh btw I've worn all types of helmets and I know the advantages and disadvantages. Did you know it would be nearly impossible for Nascar Sprint cup drivers to race without a spotter? Why. All that freaking safety gear does affect there situational awareness. They can barely see out of those cars with all the safety equipment.
#1070
Racing is high risk behavior. Much higher then cruiser bike riding is. I laugh at your hammer analogy. Are you comfortable enough to jump out the back of a truck going 65mph with your god like FF helmet on? Are you comfortable enough to let a major league baseball player to hit you in the head with a baseball bat with your helmet on. I'm not. I bet you say no to both situations. There is no question that helmets and safety belts can possibly save lives.
There is also no promise if your involved in a serious accident that they will. I'm happy to be an Ohio resident where we are given freedom of choice. Less than 1% of the bikers I see wear. 99% of riders here are Harley riders as well.
I always wear jeans, a textile riding jacket, gloves and Steel toed logger boots, goggles or safety glasses when I ride and occasionally even a 1/2 helmet in colder weather. None of those would be worth a damn if hit a wall. Neither would a helmet. That's the thing with accidents you don't get to choose what kind of accident your going to be involved in. You should read the Hurt Report it breaks down the leading causes of motorcycle fatalities quite nicely. Another fact. Riders that were involved in fatal motorcycle accidents would of died with or without helmets.
With that being said your only slightly safer riding a motorcycle wearing a helmet. Just like your only slightly safer wearing a seatbelt while driving a car. It's all about what you consider acceptable risk to an otherwise risking behavior be it drinking, riding or nailing the neighbors daughter.
Oh btw I've worn all types of helmets and I know the advantages and disadvantages. Did you know it would be nearly impossible for Nascar Sprint cup drivers to race without a spotter? Why. All that freaking safety gear does affect there situational awareness. They can barely see out of those cars with all the safety equipment.
There is also no promise if your involved in a serious accident that they will. I'm happy to be an Ohio resident where we are given freedom of choice. Less than 1% of the bikers I see wear. 99% of riders here are Harley riders as well.
I always wear jeans, a textile riding jacket, gloves and Steel toed logger boots, goggles or safety glasses when I ride and occasionally even a 1/2 helmet in colder weather. None of those would be worth a damn if hit a wall. Neither would a helmet. That's the thing with accidents you don't get to choose what kind of accident your going to be involved in. You should read the Hurt Report it breaks down the leading causes of motorcycle fatalities quite nicely. Another fact. Riders that were involved in fatal motorcycle accidents would of died with or without helmets.
With that being said your only slightly safer riding a motorcycle wearing a helmet. Just like your only slightly safer wearing a seatbelt while driving a car. It's all about what you consider acceptable risk to an otherwise risking behavior be it drinking, riding or nailing the neighbors daughter.
Oh btw I've worn all types of helmets and I know the advantages and disadvantages. Did you know it would be nearly impossible for Nascar Sprint cup drivers to race without a spotter? Why. All that freaking safety gear does affect there situational awareness. They can barely see out of those cars with all the safety equipment.
And isn't that report old, not taking into account helmet type, age and legality, and doesn't take into consideration accidents where the rider had no or lesser head injuries due to the helmet? And yes, I'll take a baseball to a head or slide at 80mph in leathers and a FF.
How many motorcyclists hit walls? Not very many. And somehow a motorcyclist will die if they wear a helmet or not? False. And by the way, you're far safer with a helmet or a seatbelt. I think you misinterpreted the report conclusions.
You're using NASCAR as a situational aware example? That is laughable. Watch F1, USC or motorcycle racing and the numerous passing attempts, braking points, hitting the apexes and blocking maneuvers per lap and then try to make a claim about situational awareness. That is a major fallacy. A tiny single-digit percentage of blocked peripheral vision has no negative effect on a rider's safety that actually turns his head and uses the mirrors.
Oh, speaking of racing risks. Controlled environment & known surface, good sight lines, no curbs, trees, intersections, distracted drivers, opposing traffic, etc. etc.
Last edited by Deuuuce; 05-05-2014 at 10:22 PM.